Order of Operations: Guitar String Frequency

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The problem involves determining the frequency of a guitar string when its tension and length are altered. The original poster provides specific values for tension and length, along with a frequency for the initial conditions, and seeks clarification on the order of operations in their calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula for frequency based on tension and length but expresses confusion regarding the order of operations in their calculations. Other participants question the clarity of the problem context and suggest that more information and relevant equations are needed for effective assistance.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the original poster's approach and questioning the assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for additional details and equations, but no consensus or resolution has been reached.

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There is a mention of the original poster's background and their return to education, which may influence their understanding of the problem. Additionally, the need for clarification on the topic under which the problem is being addressed is noted.

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Homework Statement


A guitar string of length 60.0 cm under 81.0 N of tension produces a note of frequency 330.0 Hz. What frequency will the same string produce when under 100.0 N of tension and shortened to 25.0 cm?

Homework Equations


Here is the question
[tex]f_{f}[/tex] = 330 Hz * [tex]\sqrt{ \frac{100.0 N}{81.0 N}}[/tex] * [tex]\frac{30.0 cm}{25.0 cm}[/tex]

The answer is 417.42 Hz in the book, I just don't know the order of operations to solve this.

The Attempt at a Solution


When I try it I take 100.0 N and divide by 81.0 N where I get 1.234567901 and then I push the square root key on my calculator which gives me 1.111111111

I then take 330 * by 1.111111111 * 1.2

Which gives me 440 Hz.
Can you explain where I'm going wrong in my order of operations.

Thanks
 
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Write down the eqn giving frequency in terms of length, tension etc.
 
Shooting star:

Not sure what you're saying.

I apoligize for my lack of knowlegdge. I'm returning to school to complete my diploma after being out for 15 years. I picked a course that may be a little to advanced for me but I don't want to lose the money I put down for it.

Do you need more information from me as per the equation?

Thanks
S
 
Actually, I don't know under what topic you're doing this problem. Is it under sound and waves etc or just ratio-proportion or scaling? But the fact remains that unless you give more information about why you're doing what you're doing, with relevant equations, your questions are not possible to reply to. So, for your benefit, I suggest you give more details and write the pertinent equations on the topic. Best wishes.
 

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