Origin of Cosmic Rays: Intensity Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the origin and intensity of cosmic rays, particularly focusing on how their intensity varies with altitude in the Earth's atmosphere. Participants explore the mechanisms behind cosmic ray generation and detection, including the roles of primary and secondary cosmic rays, as well as the implications of atmospheric conditions on these processes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that cosmic rays come from outer space and enter the Earth's atmosphere from higher altitudes, with intensity peaking around 20 km before decreasing at greater altitudes.
  • Another participant explains that most detected cosmic rays, such as muons, are secondary particles created when high-energy cosmic rays collide with atmospheric atoms, suggesting that fewer muons are generated at very high altitudes due to lower atomic density.
  • A third participant asserts that the idea of cosmic rays originating from Earth conflicts with observational evidence, emphasizing their extraterrestrial origins.
  • Further clarification is provided that primary cosmic rays originate in space and create secondary cosmic rays upon entering the atmosphere, which have a distinct height profile in detection.
  • One participant introduces the concept of an "accumulated energy problem," arguing that while cosmic ray intensity is high in space, the concentration of ionized particles peaks around 20 km due to varying collision probabilities at different altitudes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the extraterrestrial origin of cosmic rays and the role of secondary cosmic rays in detection. However, there are competing views regarding the mechanisms affecting intensity at different altitudes, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific reasons for the observed intensity profile.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the relationship between altitude, molecular concentration, and collision probabilities, which may influence their claims. The discussion does not resolve the underlying mechanisms or assumptions regarding cosmic ray behavior.

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we all know the cosmic rays comes from outer surface of the Earth from higher altitudes and enter the Earth's atmosphere in all directions. but experimental studies have revealed that intensity of cosmic rays increases with altitude and reaches a maximum at about 20 km above Earth surface and above that altitude , the intensity decreases. cosmic rays, being high energetic, comes from outer surface but its intensity is less at higher altitudes above 20 km. what is the reason for this?
 
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Most of the cosmic rays you detect eg. as noise in CCDs are muons created in the atmosphere when higher energy particles form space hit atoms

At low altitudes these secondary muons will have been absorbed by hitting other atoms, at very high altitudes there aren't enough atmospheric atoms to be hit by high energy particles and so fewer muons are generated.
 
Any notion that cosmic rays originate more from Earth than anywhere else seriously conflicts with observational evidence.
 
thanks nobody special for your explanation
 
Just to make Chronos' point clear.
Primary cosmic rays originate in space. When they enter the atmosphere they collide with atoms in the atmosphere and make a whole shower of secondary cosmic rays, it's these secondary rays that you mostly detect and have a characteristic height profile.
 
That's the area of accumulated energy problem.
Actually the cosmic ray intensity is high in the space.
But accumulated amount of the ionized particle is high around ~ 20km altitude.

--- high altitude area very low moleclular concentration, collison possiblity very low
.
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--- middle altitude area low molecular concentraiton , collision probability is high
.........(high amount of ionic atoms exist)
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--- low altitude area very high molecular concentraion, low amount cosmic ray reached from the space
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That's the amount of accumulated high energy particle problem.
 

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