Oscillation amplitude of block

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving oscillation amplitude of a block system connected to a spring. The scenario includes two blocks, one resting on top of the other, with a focus on the conditions under which the upper block does not slip due to oscillation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the maximum amplitude of oscillation by analyzing forces and accelerations involved. Some participants question the calculation of the normal force and its relation to static friction.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the forces acting on the blocks. There is a focus on clarifying the relationship between the static friction force and the normal force, as well as the acceleration of the upper block.

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There is a discrepancy noted between the original poster's calculated amplitude and the expected correct answer, prompting further exploration of the assumptions and calculations involved.

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1.A block of mass M=1 kg rests on a frictionless surface and is connected to a horizontal spring of force constant k=25 N/m. The other end of the spring is attached to a wall. A second block of mass m=500 g, rests on top of the first block. The coefficient of static friction between the blocks is 0.3. Find the maximum amplitude of oscillation such that the top block will not slip on the bottom block.



2.These are the equations I used:
F=ma
a(t)=-w2Acos(wt+FI)
w=sqrt(k/m)
Fs=u*normal force




3. Since we don't want the upper block to move, then the force acting on it, namely the spring bobbing under it, must be lower or equal to Fs. This means that the mass*a=Fs. Since I already have the value of the mass (M+m=1kg+0.5g=1.5kg), all I have to find is the acceleration. I calculated the value of w to be 4.08 and the value of Fs to be 1.4. With the acceleration found the following way F=Fs, I derived 1.5kg*a=1.4, thus a=0.93, I can us this equation to isolate A "a(t)=-w2Acos(wt+FI)", since I want the max acceleration, I will assume cos(wt+FI)=1.
Finally this leads me to this equation 0.93=-(4.08)2A, thus A=0.056m... However, the right answer is 0.1764m, can someone help?

 
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Fs is proportional to the normal force between the blocks. What is it?

ehild
 
It would be the mass of the upper block times gravity---> 9.8N/Kg*0.5kg=4.9N
 
The upper block must accelerate with a=Aw2. The force exerted on it is Fs. So Fs=(0.5 kg)*a.

ehild
 

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