Oscillations of a Block Mass attached to a Spring on an Incline

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The discussion revolves around the oscillations of a block mass attached to a spring on an incline, specifically examining how the incline angle affects the motion described by the equation for the period of oscillation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the role of the incline angle in the oscillation period equation, questioning whether the gravitational effects on both the mass and spring alter the dynamics. Comparisons are made between horizontal and vertical spring systems to analyze the influence of weight on equilibrium positions and equations of motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and analyses regarding the relationship between the incline angle and the oscillation period. Acknowledgment of the analysis suggests a productive exploration of the topic, though no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are considering the implications of gravitational forces on different orientations of spring systems, with an emphasis on how these forces affect equilibrium positions without altering the fundamental equations of motion.

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If the block is pulled slightly down the incline and released, what is the period of the resulting oscillations?
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Why doesn't the incline angle play a role in changing the ##m## component of this equation?
##T = 2π\sqrt{\frac{m}{k}}##

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Is it because even the spring is dealing with gravity on an incline?
Both, the mass and the spring are dealing with the same gravity/g, so, the equation/ratio remains the same.
 
Compare a horizontal spring to a vertical spring with mass. If there is no difference here, then there will be no difference for intermediate angles.

For a horizontal spring, the equation of motion is given by:

##m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}=-kx \tag{1}##

Where x is the displacement from the equilibrium position, which is the unloaded spring length, and m is the mass of the object. Now if we have a vertical spring the equation of motion is given by:

##m\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}=-ky - mg \tag{2}##

Where y displacement from the unloaded spring length. The new equilibrium position is found by force balance with zero acceleration:

##0=-ky_{eq} - mg \rightarrow y_{eq} = -mg/k \tag{3}##

So if we plug 3 into the right hand side of 2, we get:

##-ky - mg = -k(y-mg/k) = -k(y-y_{eq}) \tag{4}##

Now using 4 in 2 gives:

##m\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}=-k(y-y_{eq})\tag{5}##

And with a change in variables of ##x=y-y_{eq}## in 5, we have an expression identical to 1.

So, it seems that the only influence the weight of the object has is to change the equilibrium position, but that it doesn't change the equation of motion. A linear spring always oscillates about the equilibrium position, not the natural length of the spring. In the horizontal case, the equilibrium position happens to be the natural length of the spring, but not in the vertical (or inclined) case. Since the equations of motion are the same, the periods are the same.
 
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Brilliant analysis. THANK YOU!
 

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