Oxford Languages Gets It Wrong Again

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the usage and definition of the term "half-assed" as presented by Oxford Languages. Participants explore its grammatical classification, whether it functions as a verb or an adjective, and express skepticism about the accuracy of the dictionary's definitions.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that "half-assed" is primarily used as an adjective or adverb, questioning its classification as a verb.
  • Others express confusion about the verb form, asking how it would be conjugated if it were indeed a verb.
  • A participant points out that "half-hearted" is defined as an adjective, contrasting it with "half-arsed," which they argue implies a lack of competence.
  • There is a suggestion that the dictionary's definition may be influenced by external factors, such as financial incentives.
  • One participant shares a humorous anecdote from their past job that plays on the term "half-vast," indicating a cultural understanding of similar expressions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the classification of "half-assed," with multiple competing views on whether it should be considered a verb or strictly an adjective/adverb. The discussion remains unresolved regarding its grammatical status.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions provided by different dictionaries and the absence of consensus on the term's grammatical classification. Some participants rely on personal experiences and anecdotal evidence rather than formal references.

Hornbein
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half-arse
INFORMAL
verb
past tense: half-assed; past participle: half-assed
  1. do (something) with little effort or care.
    "developers should stop half-arsing things and make good games!"
Ha. Half-assed is usually an adjective or adverb. From now on I'm skipping past the half-assed efforts of Oxford Languages. They must be paying someone to uprate their stuff.
 
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Hornbein said:
Ha. Half-assed is usually an adjective or adverb. From now on I'm skipping past the half-assed efforts of Oxford Languages. They must be paying someone to uprate their stuff.
Agree, adjective.
 
Hornbein said:
Ha. Half-assed is usually an adjective or adverb. From now on I'm skipping past the half-assed efforts of Oxford Languages. They must be paying someone to uprate their stuff.
I don't understand! If "half-ass" (or is it "half-arse"?) is a verb, then when you say that you half-assed something yesterday, it is the past tense of the verb, isn't it?
 
martinbn said:
I don't understand! If "half-ass" (or is it "half-arse"?) is a verb, then when you say that you half-assed something yesterday, it is the past tense of the verb, isn't it?
Right. But I've never heard it used as a verb.
 
Hornbein said:
Right. But I've never heard it used as a verb.
Never heard it in present tense if it used that way. How would you conjugate the verb to "half arse?"
 
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pinball1970 said:
Never heard it in present tense if it used that way. How would you conjugate the verb to "half arse?"
I guess it is

I half arse
You half arse
He/She/It half arses
...
 
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Curiously Oxford Languages does define "half-hearted" as an adjective, not the past participle of a verb.

"Half-hearted" has a similar meaning, but more like "without enthusiasm" whereas "half-arsed" is more like "without competence".
 
Hornbein said:
Ha. Half-assed is usually an adjective or adverb. From now on I'm skipping past the half-assed efforts of Oxford Languages. They must be paying someone to uprate their stuff.
Do you have a link? Because the OED only has it as an adjective and adverb.
 
DrClaude said:
Do you have a link? Because the OED only has it as an adjective and adverb.
No web site, but it comes up first in my Google search. I suspect they paid for this advantage. Here's a screen shot.

half-arse.jpg


I'm pretty sure they have nothing to do with the OED.
 
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That dictionary is half-arsed. Assuming the verb to exist (and I've never come across it), if it was "half-arse" the past tense would be "half-arsed", and if it was "half-ass" the past tense would be "half-assed" (presumably British and American respectively).
 
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DrGreg said:
Curiously Oxford Languages does define "half-hearted" as an adjective, not the past participle of a verb.

"Half-hearted" has a similar meaning, but more like "without enthusiasm" whereas "half-arsed" is more like "without competence".
Without enthusiasm actually means"without god."

I know we do not mean it like that now. Lack of commitment or energy or attitude is my take.

Half arsed is to me today in work, when a colleague is not pulling his/her weight.
 
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At my first job, my boss said,
“Don’t start a vast project with half-vast ideas.”
 
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