Parabola Question: Verifying Solution with Multiple Methods

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving a family of parabolas defined by the equation y = x^2 + bx, where b is a constant. Participants are tasked with finding the equation of a parabola that encompasses the vertices of this family and are required to verify their solution using multiple methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance and background information to solve the problem and verify their answer.
  • Another participant suggests starting by showing the work done so far to facilitate further assistance.
  • A suggestion is made to complete the square to identify the vertices of the parabolas more easily.
  • One participant attempts to derive the equation for the encompassing parabola by completing the square but expresses uncertainty about the process.
  • A different participant provides a transformation of the original equation, suggesting it may be helpful for the problem-solving process.
  • There is a discussion about the standard form of a parabola and the implications of the coefficients involved, with a focus on completing the square.
  • Concerns are raised about ignoring steps after completing the square, indicating a need for clarity in the solution process.

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The discussion remains unresolved, with participants providing various methods and suggestions without reaching a consensus on the correct approach or solution to the problem.

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Participants express uncertainty about the steps involved in completing the square and the implications of the coefficients in the equation, indicating potential limitations in their understanding or approach.

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mods please move this topic if this is not in the correct section. thanks. :)

the question is:
the vertices of the family of parabolas y = x^2 + bx, b is constant, lie on a single parabola. Find equation for that parabola.

my teacher require me to provide supporting details & background info that back up my answer and have to verify it using a different method. I'm really puzzled and i would greatly appreciate any help that comes my way. thanks in advance.
 
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Well why don't you start by showing what you've done on the problem, and we'll take it from there.
 
You might want to start by completing the square so it's easy to see where the vertices are.
 
so this is what I've gotten so far, please correct me if I'm wrong.

for any generalized parabola, the equation is given in the standard form: y = ax^2 + bx + c

a = 1 (in the equation y = x^2 + bx)
b = constant
c = (b/2)^2

the equation for the parabola that the question asks for, if written as completing the square, should be: y - k = (x - h)^2.
we need to find the center (h, k) so that y = x^2 + bx.

y - k = (x - h)(x - h)
y - k = x^2 - 2xh + h^2

...?
 
[tex]x^2+bx=(x+b/2)^2-b^2/4[/tex] check it and then see if that's helpful for you.
 
sourpatchkid said:
so this is what I've gotten so far, please correct me if I'm wrong.

for any generalized parabola, the equation is given in the standard form: y = ax^2 + bx + c

a = 1 (in the equation y = x^2 + bx)
Yes, but not in this equation! Would it be easier to write it as [itex]y= a(x^2+ (b/a)x)+ c[/itex]? How would you complete the square for [itex]a(x^2+ (b/a)x[/itex]?

b = constant
c = (b/2)^2

the equation for the parabola that the question asks for, if written as completing the square, should be: y - k = (x - h)^2.
we need to find the center (h, k) so that y = x^2 + bx.

y - k = (x - h)(x - h)
y - k = x^2 - 2xh + h^2

...?
Why, after completing the square, did you then ignore it?
 

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