Paralell Plate Capacitors and Dielectric

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving parallel plate capacitors, specifically focusing on the effects of inserting a dielectric material between the plates. The setup includes two plates with a specified area and separation, connected to a battery, and the dielectric has a defined thickness and dielectric constant.

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  • Participants explore the configuration of capacitors in series, considering the contributions of both the dielectric and non-dielectric sections to the overall capacitance. Some express uncertainty about their calculations and seek clarification on the relationships between capacitance, charge, and voltage.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants sharing their equations and questioning their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding potential calculation errors, and there is a shift towards considering the implications of removing the dielectric after disconnecting the battery.

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Homework Statement



Two parallel plates, each having area A = 3118cm2 are connected to the terminals of a battery of voltage Vb = 6 V as shown. The plates are separated by a distance d = 0.35cm. You may assume (contrary to the drawing) that the separation between the plates is small compared to a linear dimension of the plate.

A dielectric having dielectric constant κ = 2.6 is now inserted in between the plates of the capacitor as shown. The dielectric has area A = 3118 cm2 and thickness equal to half of the separation (= 0.175 cm) . What is the charge on the top plate of this capacitor?

Homework Equations



C=Q/V

C(new) = KC(old)

The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea.

I tried dividing the new capacitance by (because the dielectric is d/2 long) and calculating Q from that, but that didn't work.
 

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kjlchem said:

Homework Statement



Two parallel plates, each having area A = 3118cm2 are connected to the terminals of a battery of voltage Vb = 6 V as shown. The plates are separated by a distance d = 0.35cm. You may assume (contrary to the drawing) that the separation between the plates is small compared to a linear dimension of the plate.

A dielectric having dielectric constant κ = 2.6 is now inserted in between the plates of the capacitor as shown. The dielectric has area A = 3118 cm2 and thickness equal to half of the separation (= 0.175 cm) . What is the charge on the top plate of this capacitor?

Homework Equations



C=Q/V

C(new) = KC(old)

The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea.

I tried dividing the new capacitance by (because the dielectric is d/2 long) and calculating Q from that, but that didn't work.

The resulting configuration will behave like two capacitors in series: One without dielectric and one with dielectric.
 
Okay, that makes sense.

So, what I have so far now is

1/C(without) + 1/C(with) = 1/C

C(without)= εA/(d/2)

C(with)= εAK/(d/2)

Unfortunately, this does not give me the right answer. What am I doing wrong?
 
kjlchem said:
Okay, that makes sense.

So, what I have so far now is

1/C(without) + 1/C(with) = 1/C

C(without)= εA/(d/2)

C(with)= εAK/(d/2)

Unfortunately, this does not give me the right answer. What am I doing wrong?

Your equations look okay. Perhaps a calculation issue? What numerical values did you find?
 
Yep! Got it!

The next part asks for the voltage when the battery is disconnected and the dielectric is removed. Does this have to do with the difference in capacitance between when the dielectric is present and when it is not?
 
kjlchem said:
Yep! Got it!

The next part asks for the voltage when the battery is disconnected and the dielectric is removed. Does this have to do with the difference in capacitance between when the dielectric is present and when it is not?

Yes. What will be conserved?
 
Charge, apparently. Got it!
 

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