Parametric Equations of an ellipse

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The discussion focuses on deriving the parametric equations for the ellipse defined by the equation \(\frac{x^2}{3^2} + \frac{y^2}{4^2} = 1\). The correct parametric equations are established as \(x(t) = 3\cos(t)\) and \(y(t) = -4\sin(t)\), which accounts for the clockwise motion of the ellipse as the parameter \(t\) increases. The incorrect assumption that \(y(t) = 4\sin(t)\) fails to consider the direction of motion, necessitating the negative sign in the sine function. The simplification of the expression \(\frac{\sqrt{(4-\cos(t))(4+\cos(t))}}{4}\) is also discussed, although further simplification is deemed unnecessary.

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The ellipse \frac{x^2}{3^2} + \frac{y^2}{4^2} = 1
can be drawn with parametric equations. Assume the curve is traced clockwise as the parameter increases.

If x=3cos(t)

then y = ___________________________


wouldnt i just sub x into the ellipse equation and solve for y?

well i did that and got \sqrt{(-1/16*((3*cos(t))^2/9)+1)}

but there's a negative sign inside the sqrt function, so it's not possible
 
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\sqrt{(-1/16*((3*cos(t))^2/9)+1)}

\sqrt{(-1/16*(9cos^2(t)/9)+1)}

\sqrt{(-cos^2(t)/16+16/16)}

\sqrt{\frac{(16-cos^2(t))}{16}}

\frac{\sqrt{16-cos^2(t)}}{4}

\frac{\sqrt{(4-cos(t))(4+cos(t))}}{4}


Im sure that can simplify more, but I'm out of ideas.
 
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Also consider that a circle is an ellipse with a = b = 1, in which case the parametric equations are:

x(t) = a cos(t) = cos(t)
y(t) = b sin(t) = sin(t)
 
Okay.I think it's not too difficult to show that
y=4\sin t

Daniel.
 
\frac{\sqrt{(4-cos(t))(4+cos(t))}}{4}

and y = 4*sin(t) is incorrect. I really get and understand how you got 4*sin(t). but anyone know why these answers are incorrect?
 
\frac{y^{2}}{16}=1-\cos^{2}t=\sin^{2}t\Rightarrow y^{2}=(4\sin t)^{2}\Rightarrow y=\pm 4\sin t...U can choose the "-" sign (y\searrow \ \mbox{when} \ t\nearrow)...

Daniel.
 
The answer would be y = -4sin(t) because the particle moves clockwise, and as t \nearrow, sin(t) \mbox { travels counter clockwise.}

For sin(t) \mbox{ to travel clockwise you would need to multiply the parameter by -1}

y(t) = 4sin(-t) \mbox{ which equals } y(t) = -4sin(t) \mbox{ by properties of the sin function}
 
Well,what do you know,it's the same thing with what I've written...:-p

Daniel.
 
I was explaining to him why :)
 
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whozum said:
Im sure that can simplify more, but I'm out of ideas.

Sure you were...:wink: However,i still think the OP needs to do some thinking on this problem.

Daniel.
 

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