Parametrizing Z=y^2-x^2 & f(x,y)=(-x,-y,z)

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The discussion focuses on the parametrization of the surface defined by the equation z = y² - x² and the function f(x, y) = (-x, -y, z). Participants clarify that a proper parametrization requires two parameters, leading to the suggestion of using x = -u cosh(v), y = -u sinh(v), and z = u. The conversation also touches on an exercise that provides specific parametrizations: y = (1+t)², x = (1-t)², and z = 4t, which are confirmed as valid representations of the surface.

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Hi!
Which is the parametrization of z= y^2-x^2 , and f(x,y)=(-x,-y,z) ?
 
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Do I have to use x=coshv and y=sinhv, so z=-1??
 
No, z is to be a variable and there is no reason to believe it would be the constant, -1.

z= x^2- y^2 is a single equation in three variables. It's graph has 3- 1= 2 dimensions so is a surface. A Parameterization must have 2 parameters.

Using your idea of x= cosh(v) and y= sinh(v), since we want "z" rather than -1, multiply by -z: x= -z cosh(v), y= -z sinh(v). If you don't like the idea of using z itself as a parameter (and have already us "v" as a parameter), introduce the paramer u= z. Then x= - u cosh(v),
y= -u sinh(v), z= u.

I don't understand what "f(-x, -y, z)" has to do with this. What is "f"?
 
HallsofIvy said:
I don't understand what "f(-x, -y, z)" has to do with this. What is "f"?

I don't really know...It is given from the exercise :(
 
$$y=(1+t)^2$$
$$x=(1-t)^2$$
$$z=4t...$$
may be?
 
mathmari said:
I don't really know...It is given from the exercise :(

Looks to me as if you're supposed to give a parametrization in the form f(x,y).
In that case your parametrization would be:
$$f(x,y)=(-x,-y,y^2-x^2)$$
 
mathworker said:
$$y=(1+t)^2$$
$$x=(1-t)^2$$
$$z=4t...$$
may be?

You mean:
$$y^2=(1+t)^2$$
$$x^2=(1-t)^2$$
$$z=4t$$
Right??

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I like Serena said:
Looks to me as if you're supposed to give a parametrization in the form f(x,y).
In that case your parametrization would be:
$$f(x,y)=(-x,-y,y^2-x^2)$$

Ok! Thanks! :)
 
mathworker said:
$$y=(1+t)^2$$
$$x=(1-t)^2$$
$$z=4t...$$
may be?

This is a curve while the original equation is a surface...
 
mathmari said:
You mean:
$$y^2=(1+t)^2$$
$$x^2=(1-t)^2$$
$$z=4t$$
Right??
yes!:o
 

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