Part b of a differential equation problem

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The discussion focuses on solving a differential equation for the charge on a capacitor in an L-R-C circuit at time t = 0.001 seconds, with given parameters L = 0.05H, R = 2 ohms, and C = 0.01F. The proposed solution for the charge function is q(t) = e^{-20t} (5 cos(40t) + \frac{5}{2} sin(40t)). Participants confirm this solution and discuss finding the first time q equals 0, leading to calculations that yield t = 0.0508 seconds, while the textbook states t = 0.0669 seconds. The discrepancy suggests potential errors in the textbook's solution.

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Homework Statement



Find the charge on the capacitor in an L-R-C circuit at time t = 0.001

L = 0.05H, R = 2 ohms, C = 0.01F

q(0) = 5
i(0) = 0
E(t) = 0


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]L \frac {di(t)}{dt} + R \frac {dq(t)}{dt} + \frac {q}{C} = 0[/tex]

[tex]\frac {dq^2(t)}{dt^2} + 40 \frac {dq(t)}{dt} + 2000q = 0[/tex]

[tex]m^2 = 40m + 2000 = 0[/tex]

[tex]q(t) = e^{-20t} (c1 * cos(40t) + c2 * sin(40t))[/tex]

[tex]q'(t) = i(t) = -20e^{-20t} (c1 * cos(40t) + c2 * sin(40t) ) + e^{-20t}(-200 sin (40t) + 40*c2*cos(40t))[/tex]


Do you agree with my q(t) =

[tex]q(t) = e^{-20t} (5 cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2} sin(40t))[/tex]


??


There is a second part to this problem -

Find the first time q is equal to 0.

Thanks to Kreizhn I have

[tex]0 = e^{-20t} (5cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2}sin(40t))[/tex]

[tex]0 = (5cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2}sin(40t))[/tex]

[tex]cos(40t) = -\frac{1} {2}sin(40t))[/tex]

[tex]40t = -1.1.07[/tex]

[tex]t = -0.0276[/tex]

[tex]40t = -1.1.07 + pi[/tex]

[tex]t = 0.0508[/tex]

The book gets t = 0.0669.

Suggestions?

Thanks
-Sparky_
 
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Sparky_ said:
[tex]q(t) = e^{-20t} (5 cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2} sin(40t))[/tex]

I am also getting this result. If you use the circuit parameters to compute the time constant for this LRC circuit, you also get a frequency of [tex]\omega' = 40[/tex] ,
so this appears to jibe.


There is a second part to this problem -

Find the first time q is equal to 0...

[tex]40t = -1.107[/tex]

[tex]t = -0.0276[/tex]

[tex]40t = -1.107 + \pi[/tex]

[tex]t = 0.0508[/tex]

The book gets t = 0.0669.

Suggestions?

The book's solution does not work in the equation q(t) = 0. The equation you used reduces to solving for 40t = arctan(-2). If you back-figure using the given solution, you find it is a result for 40t = arctan(-1/2); the simplest explanation is that the solver for this problem botched the algebra. (Yeah, like that's never happened in a textbook...)
 
Thanks,

I'll go with it.

(I'm reviewing my Diff E. from way back for the fun of it.
This is not officially for a class so I won't get the solutions.)

Thanks again
Sparky_
 

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