Part b of a differential equation problem

In summary, the charge on the capacitor in the L-R-C circuit at time t=0.001 can be found by using the given values for L, R, and C, and the equations for current and charge in an L-R-C circuit. The resulting equation for q(t) is q(t) = e^(-20t) (5 cos(40t) + 5/2 sin(40t)). The first time q is equal to 0 can be found by setting q(t) to 0 and solving for t, resulting in t = -0.0276 or t = 0.0508, depending on the method used. The book's solution of t = 0.0669 does not appear
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Homework Statement



Find the charge on the capacitor in an L-R-C circuit at time t = 0.001

L = 0.05H, R = 2 ohms, C = 0.01F

q(0) = 5
i(0) = 0
E(t) = 0


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] L \frac {di(t)}{dt} + R \frac {dq(t)}{dt} + \frac {q}{C} = 0 [/tex]

[tex] \frac {dq^2(t)}{dt^2} + 40 \frac {dq(t)}{dt} + 2000q = 0 [/tex]

[tex] m^2 = 40m + 2000 = 0 [/tex]

[tex] q(t) = e^{-20t} (c1 * cos(40t) + c2 * sin(40t)) [/tex]

[tex] q'(t) = i(t) = -20e^{-20t} (c1 * cos(40t) + c2 * sin(40t) ) + e^{-20t}(-200 sin (40t) + 40*c2*cos(40t))[/tex]


Do you agree with my q(t) =

[tex] q(t) = e^{-20t} (5 cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2} sin(40t)) [/tex]


??


There is a second part to this problem -

Find the first time q is equal to 0.

Thanks to Kreizhn I have

[tex] 0 = e^{-20t} (5cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2}sin(40t)) [/tex]

[tex] 0 = (5cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2}sin(40t)) [/tex]

[tex] cos(40t) = -\frac{1} {2}sin(40t)) [/tex]

[tex] 40t = -1.1.07 [/tex]

[tex] t = -0.0276 [/tex]

[tex] 40t = -1.1.07 + pi [/tex]

[tex] t = 0.0508 [/tex]

The book gets t = 0.0669.

Suggestions?

Thanks
-Sparky_
 
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Sparky_ said:
[tex] q(t) = e^{-20t} (5 cos(40t) + \frac{5} {2} sin(40t)) [/tex]

I am also getting this result. If you use the circuit parameters to compute the time constant for this LRC circuit, you also get a frequency of [tex]\omega' = 40[/tex] ,
so this appears to jibe.


There is a second part to this problem -

Find the first time q is equal to 0...

[tex] 40t = -1.107 [/tex]

[tex] t = -0.0276 [/tex]

[tex] 40t = -1.107 + \pi [/tex]

[tex] t = 0.0508 [/tex]

The book gets t = 0.0669.

Suggestions?

The book's solution does not work in the equation q(t) = 0. The equation you used reduces to solving for 40t = arctan(-2). If you back-figure using the given solution, you find it is a result for 40t = arctan(-1/2); the simplest explanation is that the solver for this problem botched the algebra. (Yeah, like that's never happened in a textbook...)
 
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Thanks,

I'll go with it.

(I'm reviewing my Diff E. from way back for the fun of it.
This is not officially for a class so I won't get the solutions.)

Thanks again
Sparky_
 

1. What is the purpose of Part b in a differential equation problem?

Part b in a differential equation problem represents the initial conditions or boundary conditions of the problem. It helps to find a specific solution to the given differential equation.

2. How is Part b different from Part a in a differential equation problem?

Part a in a differential equation problem represents the equation itself, while Part b represents the initial or boundary conditions. Part a is necessary for solving the differential equation, while Part b helps to find a specific solution.

3. Why is it important to consider Part b in a differential equation problem?

Part b is important because it allows us to find a particular solution to the differential equation. Without taking into account the initial or boundary conditions, we would only be able to find a general solution, which may not be applicable to the specific problem.

4. What are some common types of Part b in a differential equation problem?

Some common types of Part b are initial value problems, where the solution is required to satisfy a given condition at a specific point, and boundary value problems, where the solution is required to satisfy given conditions at multiple points.

5. Can Part b be omitted in a differential equation problem?

No, Part b cannot be omitted in a differential equation problem. It is an essential component in finding a specific solution to the problem and cannot be ignored. Omitting Part b would result in an incomplete solution and may not accurately represent the problem at hand.

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