Partial derivatives, equation help

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of partial derivatives in the context of heat conduction through a cylindrical pipe, specifically relating temperature as a function of radial distance and Cartesian coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between partial derivatives with respect to Cartesian and radial coordinates, questioning the correctness of expressing \(\frac{\partial T}{\partial x}\) in terms of \(\frac{\partial T}{\partial r}\) and \(\frac{\partial r}{\partial x}\). Some express uncertainty about the implications of the relationship between \(x\) and \(r\) given in the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining different interpretations of the relationships between the variables. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance is being offered regarding the need to utilize the equation relating \(x\) and \(r\) to derive the necessary expressions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the equation relating \(x\) and \(r\) in deriving the partial derivatives, indicating a potential constraint in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement

Heat is being conducted radially through a cylindrical pipe. The temperature at a radius r is T(r). In Cartesian co-ordinates, r = \sqrt{(x^{2}+ y^{2}})

show that \frac{\partial T}{\partial x} = \frac{x}{r} \frac{dT}{dr}
 
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cant you just say \frac{\partial T}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial T}{\partial r} * \frac{\partial r}{\partial x}
but since T is function of r you can write \frac{\partial T}{\partial r} as dT/dr I am not sure this is correct though.
 
madah12 said:
cant you just say \frac{\partial T}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial T}{\partial r} * \frac{\partial r}{\partial x}
but since T is function of r you can write \frac{\partial T}{\partial r} as dT/dr I am not sure this is correct though.

oh I thought we might have to make use of the equation relating x and r given in the question ?
 
yes to get the partial of r with respect to x you need the equation right?
 
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But the expression wants x/r?
 
I think that the <br /> \frac{\partial T}{\partial r} <br /> will give you the x/r part
 

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