Partial Derivatives: Solving x(dz/dx)+y(dz/dy)=2z(1+z)

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The discussion focuses on solving the equation x(dz/dx) + y(dz/dy) = -2z(1+z) for z = 1 / (x^2 + y^2 - 1). Participants derive the partial derivatives dz/dx and dz/dy, resulting in dz/dx = -2x * z^2 and dz/dy = -2y * z^2. A critical correction is noted regarding the negative sign in the equation, emphasizing the importance of maintaining accuracy in mathematical expressions. The conversation highlights the challenge of expressing x and y in terms of z while verifying the derived formula.

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Homework Statement


If z = 1 / (x^2+y^2-1)
show that x(dz/dx)+y(dz/dy)=2z(1+z)

2. The attempt at a solution
z = (x^2+y^2-1)^-1
dz/dx = -2x(x^2+y^2-1)^-2 = -2x * z^2
dz/dy = -2y(x^2+y^2-1)^-2 = -2y * z^2

(-2x^2 * z^2) - (2y^2 * z^2) = 2z(1+z)

I can express x and y in something like z and x/y:
x = z^-1 - (z^-1*y^2)
y = z^-1 - (z^-1*x^2)

Though substituting this values in the obtained equation doesn't get me near the answer...
 
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Pietair said:

Homework Statement


If z = 1 / (x^2+y^2-1)
show that x(dz/dx)+y(dz/dy)=2z(1+z)

2. The attempt at a solution
z = (x^2+y^2-1)^-1
dz/dx = -2x(x^2+y^2-1)^-2 = -2x * z^2
dz/dy = -2y(x^2+y^2-1)^-2 = -2y * z^2

(-2x^2 * z^2) - (2y^2 * z^2) = 2z(1+z)
Yes, exactly right. Why would you want to do the following?

I can express x and y in something like z and x/y:
x = z^-1 - (z^-1*y^2)
y = z^-1 - (z^-1*x^2)

Though substituting this values in the obtained equation doesn't get me near the answer...
 
HallsofIvy said:
Yes, exactly right. Why would you want to do the following?
Because I have no idea how to get rid of the x and y...

Thanks for your quick reply.
 
Pietair said:

Homework Statement


If z = 1 / (x^2+y^2-1)
show that x(dz/dx)+y(dz/dy)=2z(1+z)

2. The attempt at a solution
z = (x^2+y^2-1)^-1
dz/dx = -2x(x^2+y^2-1)^-2 = -2x * z^2
dz/dy = -2y(x^2+y^2-1)^-2 = -2y * z^2

(-2x^2 * z^2) - (2y^2 * z^2) = 2z(1+z)

There's a negative sign missing in the formula you need to show. It should be
x \frac{dz}{dx} + y \frac{dz}{dy} = -2z(1+z)
 
Pietair said:
Because I have no idea how to get rid of the x and y...

Thanks for your quick reply.

It sounds like you're trying to get x and y in terms of z once you have found the partial derivatives. Leave the partials in terms of x and y, and then expand out the -2z(1+z) in terms of what z equals. This will help you verify the formula (please see my previous post for the correction to the problem statement).
 

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