Partial Differential Equations?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical subjects that follow partial differential equations (PDEs) for students in physics and electrical engineering. Participants explore various advanced mathematics topics relevant to their fields, including complex analysis, linear algebra, and numerical analysis, while considering the educational pathways and course offerings available.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that complex analysis is a logical next step after PDEs, while others note that there is no strict order to learning these topics.
  • It is mentioned that in physics and engineering, PDEs are prerequisites for studying various advanced topics such as harmonic functions and electrodynamics.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between complex analysis and other mathematical subjects, indicating that it can be taught in both pure and applied contexts.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of complex variables, with opinions varying on whether it is more enjoyable or challenging depending on the teaching approach.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of additional courses like numerical analysis and applied functional analysis after studying PDEs, suggesting these can enhance understanding of differential equations.
  • Course offerings vary by institution, with some schools providing both pure and applied complex analysis classes, leading to discussions about which might be more suitable based on individual goals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific order of study after PDEs, with multiple competing views on the relevance and timing of complex analysis and other mathematical subjects.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific prerequisites and course structures at different institutions, indicating that choices may depend on personal interests and academic goals.

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What math subject comes after partial differential equations for physics and electrical engineering majors?
 
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For undergrad, that's more than you need.
 
In physics and many other graduate engineering courses, PDEs are a pre-requisite to studying things like harmonic functions, elasticity, hydrodynamics, EM and electrodynamics, etc. Also, you will need a healthy dose of vector calculus and complex analysis.
 
So next is complex analysis? Is that pure math or applied math?
 
There is not a certain order to learn topics. The usual things to learn around the same time as elementary partial differential equations (and covered in the same books) are ordinary differential equations, linear algebra, vector/tensor calculus, calculus of variations, complex variables, integral transforms, probability/statistics, and numerical analysis. One always seems to have more mathematics to learn than time to learn it.
 
I can't speak to engineering too much, but from a physics point of view any comprehensive math course is a useful math course. Even things like number theory find themselves popping up in research.

That being said, some of the key starting points are linear algebra, differential equations (ordinary and partial), and complex variables.

Basically piggybacking off of lurflurf "One always seems to have more mathematics to learn than time to learn it."
 
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So next is complex analysis? Is that pure math or applied math?

It can go either way. Typically, complex analysis is usually introduced to engineering undergrads as part of vector calculus.
 
Is complex variables a hard course?
 
Depends on how complex is taught. If you see it in a sort of "Math Methods" kind of class, it could be a lot of fun. Doing problems like contour integration and such.

If you take a math majors complex analysis, it is going to be a stranger version of real analysis which is all proof based.

Now some find doing proofs hard, some find it challenging but fun.
 
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So the course is called complex variables or complex analysis?
 
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Just check your course roster for physics/math. Some schools offer both a pure complex analysis class and an applied complex analysis class whereas others might only offer one or the other. You would have to choose based on your needs/requirements and interests, amongst other things. For example here are the course descriptions for the introductory pure and applied complex analysis classes at my university:

"MATH 4180 - Complex Analysis
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Students interested in the applications of complex analysis should consider MATH 4220 rather than MATH 4180; however, undergraduates who plan to attend graduate school in mathematics should take MATH 4180.
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Theoretical and rigorous introduction to complex variable theory. Topics include complex numbers, differential and integral calculus for functions of a complex variable including Cauchy's theorem and the calculus of residues, elements of conformal mapping."

"MATH 4220 - Applied Complex Analysis
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Undergraduates who plan to attend graduate school in mathematics should take MATH 4180 instead of 4220.
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Covers complex variables, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms and applications to partial differential equations. Additional topics may include an introduction to generalized functions."
 
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  • #12
Should have probably taken complex analysis before PDE's. Also a numerical analysis class which focuses on differential equations would be good.
 
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A good course to do after PDE is one that involves applied functional analysis, in which you can apply the theory of Banach and Hilbert spaces to problems involving ODE, PDE and distributions.
 
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Alright, thanks everyone.
 

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