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The discussion revolves around a partial fraction decomposition problem involving the expression \(\frac{1}{s(s+1)^3(s+2)}\). Participants are exploring methods to determine the coefficients of the partial fractions efficiently.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find coefficients A, B, C, D, and E through traditional methods but finds it tedious. They seek a quicker approach.
  • Some participants suggest a method involving multiplying the expression by specific terms to isolate coefficients, particularly for B.
  • Others express challenges in determining C and D, questioning the validity of their approach when evaluating at certain points.
  • There is a suggestion to rearrange the equation to isolate unknowns, and a discussion on whether solving equations or plugging in values is more efficient.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing different strategies and expressing difficulties in finding certain coefficients. Some guidance has been offered regarding evaluating the expression at specific points, but no consensus has been reached on the most efficient method.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework expectations, which may limit the methods they can use. There are also concerns about the complexity of the calculations involved in finding the coefficients.

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Hi all!
how would you do this partial fraction problem?
[tex]\frac{1}{s(s+1)^3(s+2)}[/tex]

The answer is [tex]\frac{1}{2s}+\frac{1}{2(s+2)}-\frac{1}{s+1}-\frac{1}{(s+1)^3}[/tex]

I know that it can be done by letting
[tex]\frac{1}{s(s+1)^3(s+2)} = \frac{A}{s}+\frac{B}{s+2}+\frac{C}{s+1}+\frac{D}{(s+1)^2}+\frac{E}{(s+1)^3}[/tex] and solve for A,B,C,D and E. I tried and it is very tedious. It is easy to find A, B and E but not for the others.

Can anyone tell me a quicker way to do this? Thanks
 
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hanson said:
Can anyone tell me a quicker way to do this? Thanks

Sure! Here's a neat trick. Let's derive a formula for the coefficients A, B, C, ... etc.

[tex]f(s) = \frac{1}{s(s+1)^3(s+2)} = \frac{A}{s}+\frac{B}{s+2}+\frac{C}{s+1}+\frac{D}{( s+1)^2}+\frac{E}{(s+1)^3}[/tex]

Now, to solve for B, what if we started by multiplying everything by s+2?

[tex](s+2)f(s) = \frac{(s+2)}{s(s+1)^3(s+2)} = B + (s+2)\left(\frac{A}{s} +\frac{C}{s+1}+\frac{D}{( s+1)^2}+\frac{E}{(s+1)^3}\right)[/tex]

Now, let's evaluate the expression at s = -2:

[tex](s+2)f(-2) = \frac{1}{-2(-2+1)^3} = B + (-2+2)\left(\frac{A}{s} +\frac{C}{s+1}+\frac{D}{( s+1)^2}+\frac{E}{(s+1)^3}\right)[/tex]

[tex](s+2)f(-2) = \frac{1}{-2(-1)^3} = B + 0[/tex]

[tex](s+2)f(-2) = \frac{1}{2} = B[/tex]

I think you can see the general trend. To calculate the coefficient of the partial fraction expansion term having (s-a) in the denominator, multiply the original expression by (s-a), and then evaluate the whole thing at s = a.
 
cepheid said:
Sure! Here's a neat trick. Let's derive a formula for the coefficients A, B, C, ... etc.

[tex]f(s) = \frac{1}{s(s+1)^3(s+2)} = \frac{A}{s}+\frac{B}{s+2}+\frac{C}{s+1}+\frac{D}{( s+1)^2}+\frac{E}{(s+1)^3}[/tex]

Now, to solve for B, what if we started by multiplying everything by s+2?

[tex](s+2)f(s) = \frac{(s+2)}{s(s+1)^3(s+2)} = B + (s+2)\left(\frac{A}{s} +\frac{C}{s+1}+\frac{D}{( s+1)^2}+\frac{E}{(s+1)^3}\right)[/tex]

Now, let's evaluate the expression at s = -2:

[tex](s+2)f(-2) = \frac{1}{-2(-2+1)^3} = B + (-2+2)\left(\frac{A}{s} +\frac{C}{s+1}+\frac{D}{( s+1)^2}+\frac{E}{(s+1)^3}\right)[/tex]

[tex](s+2)f(-2) = \frac{1}{-2(-1)^3} = B + 0[/tex]

[tex](s+2)f(-2) = \frac{1}{2} = B[/tex]

I think you can see the general trend. To calculate the coefficient of the partial fraction expansion term having (s-a) in the denominator, multiply the original expression by (s-a), and then evaluate the whole thing at s = a.

Thank Cepheid!
But I still meet a problem when finding, say, C.
Following the trend, I should multipy
[tex]s+1[/tex] or
[tex](s+1)^3[/tex] to f(s).

But for the former case, the denominator of [tex](s+1)f(s)=\frac{1}{s(s+1)^2(s+2)}[/tex] tends to infinite when s = -1.

For the latter case, the denominator of [tex](s+1)^3f(s)=\frac{1}{s(s+2)}[/tex] is ok when s = -1 but C is now is stuck with [tex]C(S+1)^2[/tex].
I still can't get C and D.

Or I missed something? Please point it out.
 
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hanson said:
Thank Cepheid!
But I still meet a problem when finding, say, C.
Following the trend, I should multipy
[tex]s+1[/tex] or
[tex](s+1)^3[/tex] to f(s).

But for the former case, the denominator of [tex](s+1)f(s)=\frac{1}{s(s+1)^2(s+2)}[/tex] tends to infinite when s = -1.

For the latter case, the denominator of [tex](s+1)^3f(s)=\frac{1}{s(s+2)}[/tex] is ok when s = -1 but C is now is stuck with [tex]C(S+1)^2[/tex].
I still can't get C and D.

Or I missed something? Please point it out.
No, I don't think you are missing anything. You can just choose randomly 2 more x's, plus it in the expression, and solve for C, and D using A, B, and E.
Or if you don't want to solve equations, you can rearrange it, and solve for C, and D.
[tex]\frac{1}{s(s + 1)^3 (s + 2)} = \frac{A}{s} + \frac{B}{s + 2} + \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2} + \frac{E}{(s + 1) ^ 3}[/tex] (1), and you know that:
A = 1 / 2, B = 1 / 2, E = -1, by plugging it in the expression (1), we have:
[tex]\frac{1}{s(s + 1)^3 (s + 2)} = \frac{1}{2s} + \frac{1}{2(s + 2)} + \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2} - \frac{1}{(s + 1) ^ 3}[/tex]
Isolate the unknows:
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{1}{s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} - \frac{1}{2s} - \frac{1}{2(s + 2)} + \frac{1}{(s + 1) ^ 3} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{2 - (s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2) - s(s + 1) ^ 3 + 2s(s + 2)}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{2 - (s + 1) ^ 3 ((s + 2) + s) + 2s(s + 2)}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{2 - 2 (s + 1) ^ 4 + 2s(s + 2)}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{2 (1 - (s + 1) ^ 4) + 2s(s + 2)}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{2 (1 - (s + 1) ^ 2) (1 + (s + 1) ^ 2) + 2s(s + 2)}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{2 (1 - (s + 1)) (1 + (s + 1)) (1 + (s + 1) ^ 2) + 2s(s + 2)}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{-2s (s + 2) (1 + (s + 1) ^ 2) + 2s(s + 2)}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \frac{-2s (s + 2) (s + 1) ^ 2}{2s(s + 1) ^ 3 (s + 2)} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow -\frac{1}{(s + 1) ^ 2} = \frac{C}{s + 1} + \frac{D}{(s + 1) ^ 2}[/tex]. From here, one can say that C = 0, and D = -1.
However, I think it's damn long, and solving equations may be faster.
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Now, why don't you do the first way, by plugging 2 more x's in and solve equations, to see if you can arrive at the same answer?
You can go from here, right? :)
 
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