Partial Pressure Quest: 2L Vessel, PCl5 Decomposition @ 250C

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decomposition of PCl5 in a 2L vessel at 250°C, specifically focusing on the calculation of partial pressures of the resulting gases after the reaction. Participants are exploring the implications of the change in the number of moles during the reaction and how this affects the total pressure in the vessel.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculated that 0.0116 mol of PCl5 were initially placed in the vessel and expressed confusion about the total number of moles after decomposition.
  • Another participant questioned how the total number of moles could increase from the initial amount if 1 mole of PCl5 decomposes into 2 moles of products (PCl3 and Cl2).
  • A participant noted that while the number of moles can change, the number of atoms and total mass remains constant, referencing other chemical reactions as examples.
  • There is a recurring theme of confusion regarding the relationship between moles of reactants and products in the context of gas reactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion and uncertainty about the implications of the mole changes during the reaction, indicating that there is no consensus on how to reconcile the initial and final mole counts.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a resolution regarding the calculations and implications of the decomposition reaction, and there are unresolved assumptions about the behavior of gases in relation to moles and pressure.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in chemical reactions, gas laws, and stoichiometry, particularly in understanding the nuances of mole changes during reactions.

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We have an empty vessel with volume of 2L. We put 2.42gr of PCl5 (g) and allowed it to partially decompose at 250 Celsius according to:

PCl5 --> PCl3 + Cl2

the two prodcuts are also gases. The total pressure inside the vessel after this partial decomposment is 359 torr. What is the partial pressure of each gas now?

I calculated that 0.0116 mol of PCl5 were inserted to the vessel, and I choose x to be the amount of molls of PCl5 that became the 2 products, so we have x molls of PCl3, x molls of Cl2 and 0.0116-x molls of PCl5 at the end. But I don't understand - if we add up this amount we get 0.0116+x molls at the end, but we started from 0.0116 molls of material in the first place... I don't understand how this makes sense...
 
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somebody? please??
 
assaftolko said:
if we add up this amount we get 0.0116+x molls at the end, but we started from 0.0116 molls of material in the first place... I don't understand how this makes sense...
If 1 mole of PCl5 gets completely decomposed into the two products, what is the total number of moles you get?
 
2... You got me here also.. Still don't get how this all makes sense
 
assaftolko said:
2... You got me here also.. Still don't get how this all makes sense

Why doesn't it make sense? :confused:
 
Because you start from an amount of 1 moll and get 2 molls... But maybe because these 2 molls are not made up each of exactly what made up the original 1 moll its ok..
 
Number of atoms - doesn't change. Total mass - doesn't change. But total number of moles of substances can change any way you like (doesn't mean it always does!). Think water synthesis from elements - 2 moles made out of 3 moles. Think carbon combustion to CO2 in oxygen - 1 mole made of 2 moles. Write reaction equations, balance them and you will see.
 

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