Particle in harmonic oscillator potential

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The problem involves a particle of mass m moving in a three-dimensional harmonic oscillator potential defined by V(x,y,z)=\frac{1}{2}m\omega^{2}x^{2}. Participants are discussing the allowed energy eigenvalues for this system.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the Hamiltonian formulation and the separation of variables in the wave function. There is a discussion about the energy contributions from different dimensions and whether the eigenvalues are quantized or continuous based on the potential's dependence on the coordinates.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the treatment of the y and z dimensions compared to x, and whether the energy can be considered continuous or quantized. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the potential and its implications for the energy eigenvalues.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted assumption that the potential only affects the x direction, leading to differing interpretations of the energy contributions from the y and z directions. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of this assumption for the overall energy eigenvalues.

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Homework Statement


A particle with mass m moves in 3-dimensions in the potential [tex]V(x,y,z)=\frac{1}{2}m\omega^{2}x^{2}[/tex]. What are the allowed energy eigenvalues?

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The Hamiltonian is given by [tex]H=\frac{P^{2}}{2m}+\frac{1}{2}m\omega^{2}X^{2}[/tex] where P is the momentum operator in three dimensions. Projecting this into the coordinate basis, we have [tex]\left( -\frac{\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}+\frac{1}{2}m\omega^{2}x^{2}\right)\psi = \left(E + \frac{\hbar^{2}}{2m}\left( \frac{d^{2}}{dy^{2}}+\frac{d^{2}}{dz^{2}}\right) \right)\psi[/tex]
The left side is now in the form of a simple harmonic oscillator. However, I am stuck after this point.
 
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Try assuming a solution of the form [itex]\psi(x,y,z)=X(x)Y(y)Z(z)[/itex].
 
Hmm so if we assume that, then we find that [itex]E=E_{x}+E_{y}+E_{z}[/itex]. But [itex]E_{y}[/itex] and [itex]E_{z}[/itex] correspond to the eigenvalues of a free particle, since the particle is free in the y and z directions. So does this just mean that the eigenvalues are continuous, since the energy is only quantized along one direction?
 
Why do you say it's only quantized in one direction? And no, the energy is not continuous in this case.
 
Don't we just have [tex]E=E_{x}+E_{y}+E_{z}=(n+\frac{1}{2})\hbar\omega+\frac{p_{y}^{2}}{2m}+\frac{p_{z}^{2}}{2m}[/tex]Then, since p_y and p_z are continuous, wouldn't we just have that the ground state energy is [itex]\frac{\hbar\omega}{2}[/itex] and that above that, the eigenvalues are continuous?
 
gumpyworm said:
Hmm so if we assume that, then we find that [itex]E=E_{x}+E_{y}+E_{z}[/itex]. But [itex]E_{y}[/itex] and [itex]E_{z}[/itex] correspond to the eigenvalues of a free particle, since the particle is free in the y and z directions. So does this just mean that the eigenvalues are continuous, since the energy is only quantized along one direction?
Yes.
cbetanco said:
Why do you say it's only quantized in one direction? And no, the energy is not continuous in this case.
Because the potential only depends on x. The particle isn't bound when moving in the y and z directions, so Ey and Ez can take on any value. Ex is quantized, but the total energy isn't.
 
Why do you treat y and z differently from x? your solution should be the same for X(x), Y(y) and Z(z). I would say [itex]n=n_x+n_y+n_z[/itex]
 
vela said:
Because the potential only depends on x.

OMG, I'm sorry. I didn't read the OP carefully enough. Yes, then you are right. I was thinking of [itex]\frac{1}{2}m\omega r^2[/itex] where [itex]r^2=x^2+y^2+z^2[/itex]
 

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