Obtain simultaneous eigenfunctions?

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This discussion focuses on the compatibility of the Hamiltonian operator (H) and the momentum operator (P) in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing their simultaneous eigenfunctions. It is established that if two observables commute, as shown by the relation [H, P] = 0, then a simultaneous set of eigenfunctions exists. The discussion explores the mathematical representation of these eigenfunctions, particularly in the context of a 1D free particle, and emphasizes that the spectrum cannot be continuous when considering the eigenstates of H and P. Additionally, it highlights the implications of a Hamiltonian that depends on position, which results in non-commuting operators.

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Let's consider two observables, H (hamiltonian) and P (momentum).

These operators are compatible since [H,P] = 0.

Let's look at the easy to prove rule:
1: "If the observables F and G are compatible, that is, if there exists a simultaneous set of eigenfunctions of the operators F and G, then these operators must commute; [F , G] = 0."

This can be turned around to yield,
2: " If the operators F and G commute, then it is possible to find a simultaneous set of eigenfunctions."

How would the simultaneous eigenfunctions look like for H and P? Would it be something on matrix form?

Or is the following functions simply the "simultaneous eigenfunctions":

$$\hat{H} u_{n,m}(x) = E_n u_{n,m}(x)$$
$$\hat{P} u_{n,m}(x) = P_m u_{n,m}(x)$$

where ## \psi(x) = \Sigma_{n,m} C_{n,m} u_{n,m}(x)## ?

And I think the spectrum cannot be continuous right...

EDIT: How would I express a generic wave function as a superposition of the above eigenstates if they are "equivalent"?
 
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If you have a 1d free particle, the eigenfunctions of ##\hat{p}## are like ##Ae^{ikx}## with ##A## and ##k## some real-valued constants. These are all eigenfunctions of ##\hat{H}##. The set of eigenfunctions of ##\hat{H}## also contains functions like ##Ae^{ikx} + Be^{-ikx}## which are not eigenfunctions of ##\hat{p}## because the sign of the 1d momentum is uncertain.

If you have a Hamiltonian operator that also depends on position ##\hat{x}## , then the ##\hat{H}## and ##\hat{p}## will not commute.
 

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