Particle properties conclusion from no-slit diffraction

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The discussion centers on the possibility of inferring particle properties, such as momentum, from diffraction patterns produced by two sources without the involvement of slits. Participants explore the implications of interference patterns in the context of quantum mechanics and the behavior of photons.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is possible to infer particle properties from diffraction patterns generated by two sources without slits, contrasting this with established methods involving single sources and slits.
  • Another participant suggests that with just two photons, not much can be inferred beyond what is possible with a single photon, and mentions the relevance of radio frequency sources producing interference patterns without slits.
  • A further inquiry is made about whether particle properties can be inferred from no-slit interference patterns, similar to how they are inferred from slit experiments.
  • A participant notes that for two radio frequency sources to produce a well-ordered interference pattern, they must be in phase or maintain a constant relative phase, and emphasizes that individual photons do not yield a regular interference pattern.
  • Reference is made to experiments involving single photons and a Michelson interferometer, indicating that numerous single photon events can collectively produce an interference pattern.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on whether particle properties can be inferred from no-slit diffraction patterns, with participants presenting differing views on the capabilities of two photons versus single photons and the conditions necessary for interference patterns.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the foundational aspects of quantum mechanics as they relate to the inference of particle properties from different experimental setups, highlighting the complexity of the topic.

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Is it possible to infer particle properties from 2 sources diffraction with no slit/slits involved?

Some explanations of experiments i can find, if i understand them correctly at all, relate to the possibility of concluding particle momentum, from absorption lines, when emanating from a single source, passing though a slit or slits. But is it possible to infer particle properties such as momentum, from diffraction patterns emanating from 2 sources, with no slit or slits which the particle/wave passes though?

Am i making any sense with this question or have i just made a huge mess of quantum mechanics basics?
 
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In general, I don't think you can do much with just two photons, at least not much more than you can with a single photon.
It may be of interest to look at two r-f (radio frequency) (antenna) sources: Yes, they do make an interference pattern and there are no slits involved.
 
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But can any particle properties be inferred from no-slit interference pattern, the same way that, if i understand correctly, particle properties are inferred from slit experiments absorption lines and granularity?
 
I forgot to mention that the two r-f sources need to be in phase or have a constant relative phase. Otherwise, you do not get a well-ordered interference pattern. Two individual photons will not give a regular interference pattern.
They have actually done experiments with single photons using a beamsplitter and mirrors=Michelson interferometer. If I remember correctly, the result was a single photon can produce an interference pattern, i.e. If there are numerous single photon events, you do get an interference pattern.
 
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