Particle released into electric and magnetic fields perpendicular

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a particle released into perpendicular electric and magnetic fields. The particle is initially at rest and has specified initial velocities, with the context involving the geometry of the fields and the resulting trajectories.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the nature of the particle's motion, questioning whether it moves in a straight line or follows a circular path. There are discussions about the coefficients in the equations of motion and the implications of the geometry of the fields.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the conditions under which the particle's motion may vary, such as the influence of the electric and magnetic field strengths. There is an ongoing exploration of how to graph the equations of motion and the implications of the sinusoidal nature of the solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the effects of specific values of the electric and magnetic fields on the particle's trajectory. There is also mention of deriving equations from the Lorentz force, indicating a focus on the underlying physics principles.

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Homework Statement


z+ up with E field, y to the right, x out of the page with B field
particle released from rest at (0,0,0) with only initial y velocity y=(E/B)t
or initial y=(E/2B)t

Homework Equations


can you suggest a good differential equations text?
y(t)=C1cos(wt)+C2sinwt+(E/B)t+C3
z(t)=C2cos(wt)-C1sin(wt)+C4

The Attempt at a Solution


so particle will move in a linear straight line to the right?

in the case of particle released from rest it will move in perfect half circle paths to the right? so there is a preservation of the geometry?
 
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so particle will move in a linear straight line to the right?
Only for special values of E and B.

In general, you can calculate those coefficients C1 to C4 in your equations (they are not differential equations, by the way). Alternatively, you can derive those equations from the differential equation given by the Lorentz force.
in the case of particle released from rest it will move in perfect half circle paths to the right?
Right/left depends on the sign of E and B.
so there is a preservation of the geometry?
What does that mean?
 
thanks very much! the geometry of the E and B fields/forces is perpendicular and coplanar and are simply rotated pi/2 clockwise

so...how do you sketch the graphs of these equations for the case?
v(0)=(E/2B)y, v(0)=(E/B)(y+z), I can find the centers of the circles and differentiate to find min/max but as sinusoidal functions they have some vague wave graph

do I just plug in values for 0, pi/2, pi, 3pi/2...?
 
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do I just plug in values for 0, pi/2, pi, 3pi/2...?
That is a good idea, indeed.
 

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