Particle speed relative to frequency and pressure amplitude.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum particle speed of a sound wave with a given frequency and pressure amplitude, specifically for a sound wave propagating through air at 0 degrees Celsius. The participants are exploring the relationship between frequency, pressure amplitude, and particle speed in the context of wave mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various equations related to wave properties, including the relationship between frequency, wavelength, and particle speed. There is an attempt to connect the maximum displacement of particles to pressure amplitude, and questions arise about the application of equations for transverse waves to longitudinal waves like sound.

Discussion Status

Some participants have expressed uncertainty about how to connect the equations and concepts involved in calculating maximum particle speed. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of displacement wave equations and the need to differentiate to find particle velocity. There is ongoing exploration of how these concepts apply to different types of waves.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a focus on understanding the underlying principles rather than reaching a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement


A sound wave of frequency 1250 Hz., propagating through air at 0 degrees Celsius, has a pressure amplitude of 15.0 Pa. What is the maximum particle speed (in meters/second)?

Homework Equations


v = frequency x lambda = (2 x pi x frequency)(lambda / 2 x pi) = omega / k = sqrt(B/rho)

The Attempt at a Solution


I found that at the temperature of 0 degrees Celsius v = 331 m/s

I'm not sure how to tie these equations together and the maximum particle speed.

Anyone have any suggestions where to start on this one?
Any help will be appreciated.
 
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Alpha Russ Omega said:

Homework Statement


A sound wave of frequency 1250 Hz., propagating through air at 0 degrees Celsius, has a pressure amplitude of 15.0 Pa. What is the maximum particle speed (in meters/second)?

Homework Equations


v = frequency x lambda = (2 x pi x frequency)(lambda / 2 x pi) = omega / k = sqrt(B/rho)

The Attempt at a Solution


I found that at the temperature of 0 degrees Celsius v = 331 m/s

I'm not sure how to tie these equations together and the maximum particle speed.

Anyone have any suggestions where to start on this one?
Any help will be appreciated.

The displacement wave has an equation of the form
[itex]s(x,t) = s_{max} cos (\omega t + \phi)[/itex]

To find the maximum speed of the particle, you must calculate the transverse velocity of the particles, [itex]\frac{\partial s}{\partial t}[/itex] and find the maximum possible value it may have.

Next, you will need an equation relating the maximum displacement [itex]s_{max}[/itex] to the pressure amplitude (you must have covered that in class).
 
Aha! I was trying to use the wrong equations. It's figured out now. Thank you! :-)
 
How did it end up being?

Hey, I also have to complete that problem. How did u end up finding the solution? Thanks!
 
nrqed said:
The displacement wave has an equation of the form
[itex]s(x,t) = s_{max} cos (\omega t + \phi)[/itex]

To find the maximum speed of the particle, you must calculate the transverse velocity of the particles, [itex]\frac{\partial s}{\partial t}[/itex] and find the maximum possible value it may have.

Hmm, can you please explain how that equation for transverse particle speed also applies to longitudinal waves like sound?
 
mike115 said:
Hmm, can you please explain how that equation for transverse particle speed also applies to longitudinal waves like sound?

I should have said "longitudinal velocity" instead of transverse speed.
The formula I gave is still correct. Th elongitudinal velocity is simply the derivative of the longitudinal motion with respect to time so [tex]\frac{\partial s(x,t)}{\partial t}[/tex]
 

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