Path integral(Parametric curve)

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral $$\int_{C} z^3 ds $$ along a specified curve defined by the equations $$ x^2+y^2+z^2=1 $$ and $$ x+y=1 $$, with the condition that $$ z \geq 0 $$.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to parameterize the curve using $$ x=t $$, $$ y=1-t $$, and $$ z= \sqrt{2t-2t^2} $$, questioning the validity of this approach. Some participants confirm this parameterization while others suggest exploring the standard parameterization of the sphere.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes confirmations of the parameterization and calculations related to the differential element $$ ds $$, with some participants noting potential complications in the expression for $$ ds $$ and suggesting that it may be more complex than necessary. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the constraint $$ 0 \leq t \leq 1 $$ and mention a possible typo in the expression for $$ ds $$ that could complicate the calculations.

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Find $$\int_{C} z^3 ds $$ where C is the part of the curve $$ x^2+y^2+z^2=1,x+y=1$$ where$$ z ≥ 0 $$ then I let $$ x=t , y=1-t , z= \sqrt{2t-2t^2}$$ . Is it correct? Or there are some better idea?


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sigh1342 said:

Homework Statement


Find $$\int_{C} z^3 ds $$ where C is the part of the curve $$ x^2+y^2+z^2=1,x+y=1$$ where$$ z ≥ 0 $$ then I let $$ x=t , y=1-t , z= \sqrt{2t-2t^2}$$ . Is it correct? Or there are some better idea?
Yes, that is correct. And, of course, [itex]ds= \sqrt{dx^2+ dy^2+ dz^2}= \sqrt{1+ 1+ (2- 2t)^2/(2t- 2t^2)} dt[/itex]. I thought about using the standard parameterization of the sphere and then adding the condition that x+y= 1, in order to avoid the square root, but that does not appear to give a simpler integral.

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This is OK, just note that 0[itex]\leq[/itex]t[itex]\leq[/itex]1 . The answer sjould be 1/3.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Yes, that is correct. And, of course, [itex]ds= \sqrt{dx^2+ dy^2+ dz^2}= \sqrt{1+ 1+ (2- 2t)^2/(2t- 2t^2)} dt[/itex]. I thought about using the standard parameterization of the sphere and then adding the condition that x+y= 1, in order to avoid the square root, but that does not appear to give a simpler integral.

There is actually a small typo in your ds, which makes it much more complicated than it actually is.
 

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