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The discussion revolves around PCB (Printed Circuit Board) design, focusing on recommendations for free software tools suitable for beginners. Participants share their experiences with various software options and methodologies related to PCB design and manufacturing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for the best free PCB design software, indicating they are new to the field.
  • Another participant suggests Eagle as a popular introductory package but questions the user's current software for schematic capture and the nature of the circuit (digital, analog, or mixed-signal).
  • Some participants express dissatisfaction with Eagle's interface, describing it as difficult to use, while others mention alternatives like ExpressPCB, which is simpler but has limitations.
  • One participant shares their positive experience with Ultiboard and Multisim, noting its intuitiveness but also its lack of library support.
  • Several software options are mentioned, including Proteus, OrCad, and Altium Designer, with a suggestion to try evaluation versions to find the best fit.
  • A participant introduces the concept of DFM (Design for Manufacturability) methodology, highlighting its importance in preventing design errors and suggesting the availability of free DFM software from PCB manufacturers.
  • Another participant confirms the commonality of DFM in the industry, mentioning that companies typically have DFM guidelines managed by their Manufacturing Engineering group.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions about different PCB design software, with no clear consensus on which is the best. There is also a shared acknowledgment of the importance of DFM methodology, though specific practices and tools vary among participants.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions include personal experiences with software usability and preferences, which may not represent broader user experiences. The effectiveness of DFM methodologies may depend on specific industry practices and the tools used.

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Hey All,

I am glad to be a part of this Forum. I am brand new to PCB design and I am working on a project related to PCB designing and manufacturing. At present we have free software's available which helps in PCB designing. Can anyone suggest me which is the best software available for designing PCBs. Information on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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angelageorge said:
Hey All,

I am glad to be a part of this Forum. I am brand new to PCB design and I am working on a project related to PCB designing and manufacturing. At present we have free software's available which helps in PCB designing. Can anyone suggest me which is the best software available for designing PCBs. Information on this would be appreciated. Thanks.

Eagle is a popular introductory package. What software are you using for the schematic capture? It's best if the PCB layout software is coupled with the [STRIKE]PCB layout[/STRIKE] schematic capture software. Is the circuit digital, analog, or mixed-signal?
 
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My preference:
Pads PCB & Power Logic where cost is not a major consideration.
DipTrace where cost is a major consideration. (DipTrace is also easier to use than Pads for simpler PCB's)
 
Eagle's GUI nearly drove me to suicide. However it is the only free, full-service program that I could find. Even though it costs a bit more to produce and has other limitations, for small boards and proto-type quantities I skurried back to http://www.expresspcb.com/ with my tail between my legs. Their free software is blindingly simple (in comparison to Eagle), but it has no auto-routing (which I found useless in Eagle anyway, but didn't really try to use) and ties you into using their production facility and prices.
 
schip666! said:
Eagle's GUI nearly drove me to suicide. However it is the only free, full-service program that I could find.

Yeah, I guess I should have qualified my post by saying that I only used Eagle to view a schematic that I was working with (from another designer outside my company). I haven't used their tools, but could believe that they are hard to work with.
 
I've found Eagle to produce suicidal tendencies as well. I'm currently using Ultiboard in conjunction with Multisim and have a good amount of success. Its very intuitive to use but lacks in the library department. Fortunately parts are very easy to make and use spice models for simulation. There's lots of good programs out there though. Proteus is popular along with OrCad and Altium Designer. I would recommend just downloading the evaluation versions and seeing which one feels best and is in your price range.
berkeman said:
It's best if the PCB layout software is coupled with the PCB layout software.

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Uhhh...?
 
Topher925 said:
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Uhhh...?

Oopsies -- fixing that now. Thanks Topher.
 
For layout, I use http://freepcb.com/" .

Otto
 
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DFM Methodology

Thank you so much for your replies. It was really helpful. Recently I came across few articles on web regarding DFM (Design for Manufacturability) methodology which helps designers incorporate manufacturing knowledge during the initial design process, preventing design errors early in the design process and reducing the need for costly corrections later. Also one of my friends suggested me that we have free DFM software’s offered by few PCB manufacturers which is of great help to PCB designers. Ever heard of DFM methodology? Thanks much!
 
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angelageorge said:
Thank you so much for your replies. It was really helpful. Recently I came across few articles on web regarding DFM (Design for Manufacturability) methodology which helps designers incorporate manufacturing knowledge during the initial design process, preventing design errors early in the design process and reducing the need for costly corrections later. Also one of my friends suggested me that we have free DFM software’s offered by few PCB manufacturers which is of great help to PCB designers. Ever heard of DFM methodology? Thanks much!

Yes, it is very common in the industry. Most companies will have DFM guidelines that are managed by the Manufacturing Engineering group. And Contract Manufacturers will have their own DFM binders that you can use in your design that they will be building for you.
 

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