Pendulum - Maximum Angle in 2nd half of swing

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The discussion revolves around a simple pendulum problem involving the calculation of the maximum angle reached during the second half of its swing. The pendulum has a length of 2.0 m and is initially released at an angle of 25° with an initial speed of 1.2 m/s.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the energy conservation approach to find the maximum angle, questioning the correctness of their assumptions and the use of initial speed. There is uncertainty about how to define the height (h1) and whether to use the initial speed in calculations.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the approach, suggesting that the original poster's method is valid. However, there remains confusion regarding the use of initial speed and the definition of angles for the second half of the swing. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants express uncertainty about their trigonometric background and the need for clarity on the definitions of variables involved in the problem, particularly regarding the maximum angle and height calculations.

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A simple pendulum, 2.0 m in length, is released by a push when the support string is at an angle of 25° from the vertical. If the initial speed of the suspended mass is 1.2 m/s when at the release point, to what maximum angle will it move in the second half of its swing?

Let h1 be the elevation reached when potential energy = total energy transferred.
mg(h1) = mgL(1 - cos θ0) + 1/2 (mV²)

I am not sure if the approach is correct and how to proceed. My trig. background is not that strong at all.

Please help. I believe the answer is 30 degrees.
 
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The approach is correct. You know everything apart from h1 (and m, but you can divide the equation by m to get rid of it), so you can solve that equation.
With h1 and L you can find the angle.
Alternatively, directly use the angle-dependent expression on the left side.
 
Thanks for you feedback. I assume h1 = L ( 1 - cos 25 degrees) . Is that right?
I have troubles to find the "V" . I don't think I should use the initial speed 1.2 m/s.
Since it is asking for max angle for 2nd half of swing. Beside theta 0, do I need to set up theta 1 , another angle for 2nd half of swing? Confused.
Need some guidance.
 
bigsmile said:
I assume h1 = L ( 1 - cos 25 degrees) . Is that right?
Instead of 25 degrees, you have to use the angle you want to calculate there.
bigsmile said:
I have troubles to find the "V" . I don't think I should use the initial speed 1.2 m/s.
Why not?
 

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