Pendulum Problem (Simpson's Rule)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the period of a pendulum using Simpson's Rule. The original poster presents a scenario involving a pendulum of length L and a maximum angle Θ, seeking assistance with the integration process required to apply Simpson's Rule for numerical evaluation.

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  • The original poster attempts to substitute known values into the integral but struggles with the integration process due to the presence of variables in the denominator. Some participants suggest treating certain variables as constants, while others clarify terminology related to integration.

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The conversation has progressed with participants providing clarifications on integrating with respect to x and discussing the application of Simpson's Rule. The original poster has reported a successful evaluation of the integral, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is a focus on the numerical evaluation of the integral, and participants are navigating the specifics of applying Simpson's Rule within the context of the pendulum problem. The original poster's confusion regarding the integration process highlights the complexity of the problem setup.

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1. Consider a pendulum with length L that makes a maximum angle Θ with a vertical center line. The period T of this pendulum can be computed by the following integral
where k=sin(Θ/2) and g is the acceleration due to gravity. Find the period of this pendulum if L=1 meter and Θ=40º using Simpson's Rule with n=10


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3. So if I substitute 1 for L and 9.8 for g, I can multiple the integral by the constant in front of it. The problem I have is with the integral itself. Since k=sin(Θ/2), I can not see how to integrate with respect to x or Θ because they are both in the denominator of the equation. Can somebody please help me out with this by explaining what I should do ? I know the Simpson's rule formula but I am stumped how to apply it since I can not understand how to integrate with this formula ? All helpful advice is kindly appreciated !
 
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you only need to integrate w.r.t. x, theta is a constant in this equation as it represent the maximum angle, 40 deg for this case, so you can treat k as a constant
 
what do you mean by integrate w.r.t. x ? I'm not familiar with that expression...
 
w.r.t. x = with respect to x
 
boogalu said:
3. So if I substitute 1 for L and 9.8 for g, I can multiple the integral by the constant in front of it. The problem I have is with the integral itself. Since k=sin(Θ/2), I can not see how to integrate with respect to x or Θ because they are both in the denominator of the equation.
The presence of dx in the numerator tells you you're integrating with respect to x, not θ.
Can somebody please help me out with this by explaining what I should do ? I know the Simpson's rule formula but I am stumped how to apply it since I can not understand how to integrate with this formula ? All helpful advice is kindly appreciated !
Simpson's rule is a method for numerically evaluating an integral:

\int_a^b f(x)\,dx \cong \frac{h}{3}\left[f(x_0)+4f(x_1)+2f(x_2)+4f(x_3)+\cdots+2f(x_{n-2})+4f(x_{n-1})+f(x_n)\right]

where n is the number of divisions, h=(b-a)/n, and xi=a+ih. This problem is pretty much just plugging everything into the formula and grinding out an answer.
 
thanks guys, I did as you said, split up the thing into the ten intervals and evaluated it at each, multiplied all of it by the gravity-pendulum constant in front and it came out to be 2.07~ seconds which the professor said was correct !
 

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