Pendulum Problem: Solve 100 Oscillations in 50cm Rod

  • Thread starter Thread starter Clearik
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Pendulum
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The pendulum problem involves a 50 cm rod with a moment of inertia of 0.2 kgm² and a mass of 400g, with an additional point mass of 200g attached. The correct formula for the period of oscillation is T = 2π√(I/Mg x d), where the moment of inertia must be adjusted using the parallel axis theorem. The total moment of inertia for the system is calculated as I_total = I_rod + I_point, leading to a total of 3.53 kgm². To find the time for 100 oscillations, the period calculated should be multiplied by 100.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of pendulum mechanics and oscillation principles
  • Familiarity with moment of inertia calculations
  • Knowledge of the parallel axis theorem
  • Basic algebra for manipulating equations
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the application of the parallel axis theorem in rotational dynamics
  • Learn how to derive the period of a pendulum with varying mass distributions
  • Explore the effects of changing the length of a pendulum on its oscillation period
  • Investigate the relationship between mass distribution and moment of inertia in complex systems
USEFUL FOR

Physics students, educators, and anyone interested in understanding pendulum dynamics and rotational mechanics.

Clearik
Messages
5
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A pendulum is composed of a thin rod of length L = 50 cm, a moment of inertia of I = 0.2kgm2 with respect to its center and mass M = 400g. Attached to the bottom of the rod is a point mass (m = 200g). The pendulum swings in a vertical plane, attached by the top end to the ceiling.

Homework Equations



T = 2∏√(I/Mg x d)
*I think*

The Attempt at a Solution



T = 2∏√(.2/(.4)(10) x .25)

No radius was given for the point mass, so I assumed the moment of inertia of center of mass is .2kgm2 and therefore the distance of center of mass (d) would be L/2 or .25m

Did I go about solving this correctly?

Also, the second problem asks: How long will it take for the pendulum to perform 100 oscillations?

Would I simply multiple the period I found from the first part by 100?

Thank you all for your time and consideration.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
No radius was given for the point mass, so I assumed the moment of inertia of center of mass is .2kgm2 and therefore the distance of center of mass (d) would be L/2 or .25m
Don't guess.
It helps to sketch the situation out:

- Which part of the rod is attached to the ceiling?
- Which part of the rod has the point mass attached to it?

You are given the moment of inertia for a rod pivoted at the center of mass - but that is not where the rod is pivoted - so you need to adjust this (hint: parallel axis theorem).

Would I simply multiple the period I found from the first part by 100?
... yes.
The question is basically checking if you understand what "one period" means.

It's good to see you thinking beyond what's in the question - just remember that everything you want to assert has to be justified by something said inside the problem statement.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person
Hmm, I see.

The equation for moment of inertia at end of rod is Iend = mL2/3

Therefore, Iend = 1.33 kgm2

From my understanding of using the parallel axis theorem to calculate moment of inertia of a system, one would simply add up the inertias.

Isystem = Icom + Iend of rod + Ipoint mass

Isystem = .2kgm2 + 1.33kgm2 + 2.00kgm2

Isystem = 3.53kgm2

Does this sound more reasonable?
 
From my understanding of using the parallel axis theorem to calculate moment of inertia of a system, one would simply add up the inertias.
That's not how the parallel axis theorem works.

You should only have two terms to calculate inertia: ##I_{tot}=I_{rod}+I_{point}##

You can just look up the inertia for the rod-pivoted-about-one-end.
However, since the question tells you the com inertia, they are expecting you to use that and the parallel axis theorem. Either way is correct but both together is not.

Aside: interesting... the PF spell-checker does not accept either "inertias" or "inertiæ" (accepted plurals for "inertia").
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

Replies
17
Views
1K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
2K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
4K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K