Pendulumn Problem (did i do this correctly?)

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The discussion revolves around a pendulum problem where the objective is to find the speed of a 2.0 kg object at the lowest point of its swing, given a string length of 1.5 m. The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles to derive the speed but faces challenges due to incomplete information regarding the pendulum's swing angle.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants question the completeness of the problem statement, specifically the need for the angle of swing. There are discussions about calculating the height of the pendulum at a given angle and the relevance of the original height equation provided by the poster.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to compute the height of the pendulum at the specified angle and have pointed out potential inaccuracies in the original height equation. The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations and approaches to the problem.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the angle through which the pendulum swings, which is critical for solving the problem. The original poster has acknowledged confusion regarding the height calculation and the use of formulas.

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Homework Statement


find the speed of the object as it goes through the lowest point on its trajectory given that a pendulum is made by letting a 2.0 kg object swing at the eng of a string of length 1.5

Homework Equations


h= mg(L-Lcostheta)
mgh = .5mv^2
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The Attempt at a Solution


mgh = .5mv^2 (conservation of energy)[/B]
(2)(9.81)(0.20096) = .5(2)v^2
solve for v, v = 1.98 m/s
 
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The statement of the problem is incomplete. Information is needed on how far the pendulum swings (in angle ## \theta ##). Presumably the length ## L=1.5 ## m.
 
Charles Link said:
The statement of the problem is incomplete. Information is needed on how far the pendulum swings (in angle ## \theta ##). Presumably the length ## L=1.5 ## m.
Oops! I left out the angle. It says 30degrees is the max angle that string makes
 
Can you compute how high up (##h ##) that the pendulum is at ## \theta=30^o ##, compared to when ## \theta=0^o ## and ## h=0 ##? ## \\ ## Note:The equation that you supplied for ## h=mg (L-L \cos(\theta)) ## has an ## mg ## that doesn't belong in the equation. Meanwhile, if you draw a good diagram, you should be able to compute ## h ## without using a formula.
 
Charles Link said:
Can you compute how high up (##h ##) that the pendulum is at ## \theta=30^o ##, compared to when ## \theta=0^o ## and ## h=0 ##? ## \\ ## Note:The equation that you supplied for ## h=mg (L-L \cos(\theta)) ## has an ## mg ## that doesn't belong in the equation. Meanwhile, if you draw a good diagram, you should be able to compute ## h ## without using a formula.
I didn't really use that formula. I just figured it out that it i needed to find the height to calculate mgh. I've drawn the picture but it is difficult to post on here~ I think i know what you mean though! I think i mean to say that i calculated mgh and found h by L-Lcostheta. Sorry for the confusion!
 
Very good. The string makes a ## 30^o, 60^o, 90^o ## triangle if you draw one vertical line down the middle, and the hypotenuse is along the string that is pulled ## 30^o ## from center. The first length you need to compute is how far down the string is (from the point where the pendulum swings from), if you go straight across horizontally to the middle of the pendulum when the pendulum is ## 30^o ## from the center. It would be easier if we had a diagram...I'm hoping you get the answer that the vertical length is ## L \cos(30^o) ##.
 
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