Percent change vs. percent difference

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The discussion centers on the distinction between percent change and percent difference, exploring when to use each term and the implications of their usage in communication. Participants examine the definitions and contexts in which these terms apply, as well as the potential for confusion in their application.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the choice between percent change and percent difference depends on the specificity required in the discussion.
  • Others argue that percent difference is defined as the difference between two values divided by the average of those values, which is distinct from percent change.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of precise language and symbolic notation to avoid confusion when discussing these concepts.
  • There is mention of the common confusion in the practical use of percentages, highlighting the variability in how people communicate these changes.
  • One participant notes that percent change lacks clarity unless the original value is known or assumed, which can lead to misunderstandings.
  • Another participant raises the idea that stating changes in terms of percentage points may also lead to confusion, particularly among non-STEM individuals.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and applications of percent change and percent difference, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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Limitations include the potential ambiguity in the definitions of percent change and percent difference, as well as the dependence on context and assumptions that may not be explicitly stated in discussions.

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What is the difference between percent change and percent difference? When would you use one over the other? Thanks.
 
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i_love_science said:
What is the difference between percent change and percent difference? When would you use one over the other? Thanks.
Have you done any research on this? It's pretty easy to do it yourself.
 
You choose depending how specific you want to be in discussing or stating the change. If you want to avoid confusion, speak in terms of percentage increate or percentage decrease.
 
symbolipoint said:
You choose depending how specific you want to be in discussing or stating the change. If you want to avoid confusion, speak in terms of percentage increate or percentage decrease.
That's not what the internet says. You are talking about % change, for which I agree w/ you, BUT ...
Percent Difference is the difference between two values divided by the average of the two values shown as a percentage.
which is not the same thing.
 
phinds said:
That's not what the internet says. You are talking about % change, for which I agree w/ you, BUT ...
which is not the same thing.
That shows you why I like to look for more precise language in discussing percent change or percent difference. Or at least show in symbolized form what is meant, to help cut through any troubles with language.
 
symbolipoint said:
That shows you why I like to look for more precise language in discussing percent change or percent difference. Or at least show in symbolized form what is meant, to help cut through any troubles with language.
But all you said was
symbolipoint said:
speak in terms of percentage increate or percentage decrease.
Which does not describe percent difference at all, that was my point.
 
i_love_science said:
What is the difference between percent change and percent difference? When would you use one over the other? Thanks.
@i_love_science, as @symbolipoint suggested, MATH (symbolic notation) is the best way to precisely describe things.

If something goes from 50 to 100, that's a percentage increase of 100%.

If something goes from 100 to 50, that's a 50% decrease

The percentage difference between 50 and 100 is 66.7%

SO ... you don't "use one over the other", you use the ONE that is correct for what you are describing.
 
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In practice, you will often find some confusion in how people use percentages to evaluate change. This is where it's important to clearly communicate. Percentage is really just a fraction of some sort, The rest is, unfortunately, dependent on human language. It is fashionable in lectures to define these things, but out in the real world it's a mess; people do it in all sorts of ways. You really just need to ask them, read an equation, or, if you are the source, tell people what you mean.
 
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phinds said:
But all you said was

Which does not describe percent difference at all, that was my point.
and this part was left out of the quote, so needed to include
If something goes from 50 to 100, that's a percentage increase of 100%.

If something goes from 100 to 50, that's a 50% decrease

The percentage difference between 50 and 100 is 66.7%

Percent Change is not clear unless the number from which the change happened is known, given, or assumed, or if the assumption can clearly be understood.
 
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To avoid ambiguity when going from 5% to 10% you can always say "increased by 100%" or "increased by 5 percentage points", can't you?
 
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Borek said:
To avoid ambiguity when going from 5% to 10% you can always say "increased by 100%" or "increased by 5 percentage points", can't you?
You can, but I find that "increased by 5 percentage points" is confusing to some people. Non-STEM types tend to get confused by percentages (and often don't even realize that they ARE confused).
 
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