Terminology, pressure of gas in fluid (quick question)

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the pressure of CO2 and its effect on the surface tension of water, specifically how changes in CO2 pressure from 1 to 11 bar influence this property. Participants also explore the conversion of pressure measurements from bar to volume percent and the context of the pressure being referenced.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that CO2 can change the surface tension of water from 72 mN m−1 to 57 mN m−1 as its pressure changes from 1 to 11 bar.
  • Another participant questions whether the pressure refers to CO2 pressure above the water, indicating a need for context or reference.
  • A later reply references a paper that discusses absolute pressure measurements and questions whether this indicates the pressure in the water or above it.
  • One participant expresses a belief that the pressure of CO2 is above the liquid and argues that concentration should be expressed in terms of molality or molarity rather than pressure, citing Henry's law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the pressure discussed refers to the CO2 pressure above the liquid or the pressure within the liquid itself. There is no consensus on this point.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for clarity regarding the context of pressure measurements and the implications for concentration calculations, but these aspects remain unresolved.

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Would it be correct to say the following...

CO2 for example can change the surface tension of water from 72 mN m−1 to 57 mN m−1 as its pressure changes from 1 to 11 bar.

I'm used to dealing with concentrations, in fact I would like to change bar to volume percent if anyone has a free moment and might suggest a method and the values I would need.

Thanks for any help with this.
 
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Check the context (reference?): it seems to me they may refer to the CO2 pressure above the water.
 
BvU said:
Check the context (reference?): it seems to me they may refer to the CO2 pressure above the water.

Hm, here is the paper (info given about 1/4 down the abstract):

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0021979796902726

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A sensitive pressure transducer capable of resolving one part in a hundred thousand was connected into the pipework, and enabled accurate measurement of the absolute pressure, while a similarly accurate external barometer allowed us to record the atmospheric pressure.

It does say 1 to 11 bar absolute, would that that give any indication as to whether it's the pressure in the water or above? I assumed (which is why I wasn't sure of the context) that if a liquid is pressurised with gas then that would indicate how much is in there (partial pressure?) is that incorrect?
 
I'm convinced it's the pressure of CO2 above the liquid. "how much is in there" isn't expressed in terms of a pressure but in molality, molarity or some similar concentration (e.g. g/100 g solvent). Check out Henry's law.
 
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BvU said:
I'm convinced it's the pressure of CO2 above the liquid. "how much is in there" isn't expressed in terms of a pressure but in molality, molarity or some similar concentration (e.g. g/100 g solvent). Check out Henry's law.

Ok thanks very much for the help!
 

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