Perfect Square Polynomial: Finding (a+b) for P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2-8x+1

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The problem involves determining the values of \(a\) and \(b\) in the polynomial \(P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2-8x+1\) under the condition that it is a perfect square. The context is centered around polynomial expressions and their properties, particularly focusing on perfect squares.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the polynomial and question what it means for \(P(x)\) to be a perfect square. There are attempts to relate the polynomial to the square of a quadratic expression and to identify the necessary conditions for the coefficients \(a\) and \(b\).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the polynomial's structure. Some have proposed specific forms for the polynomial and are questioning how to derive the coefficients that would satisfy the perfect square condition. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants are considering the implications of the polynomial's degree and the relationships between its coefficients. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further clarification on the assumptions regarding the coefficients and their values.

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Homework Statement



If the polynomial P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2-8x+1 is a perfect square then find (a+b)

The Attempt at a Solution


The first term is a perfect square and so is the last term. that means that th middle terms should have been =2x^2.
But it is not so, then how can this be a perfect square?
 
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P(x) is a perfect square of what? Since it involves x4, it must be the square of a quadratic. What is (x^2+ ux+ 1)2? What values of a, b, and u make those the same?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
P(x) is a perfect square of what? Since it involves x4[/itex], it must be the square of a quadratic. What is (x^2+ ux+ 1)2? What values of a, b, and u make those the same?


Thanks. I have solved the problem. But will you please tell me how did you figure out that the skeleton expression given was the square of a trinomial?
 
I didn't "figure" that out. The given expression involved x4 so I knew it must be the square of a quadratic. The most general quadratic is ax2+ bx+ c. Then I saw that, in order to get "x4" and "+ 1" I must have a= 1, c= 1. I still did not know what b was so I left that in. I did not know that b was not 0, just that there was no reason to assume it wasn't!
 

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