Perpetual Motion: Can It Be Achieved In Space?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of achieving perpetual motion in space, specifically through the idea of connecting wires to a machine that generates continuous force. Participants highlight that any interaction with a moving object in space would result in energy loss, thus negating the possibility of perpetual motion. Additionally, while concepts like wrapping a coil around Earth to harness its rotation and magnetic field are mentioned, they emphasize that such methods do not equate to perpetual motion devices. The consensus is that perpetual motion machines (PMMs) and free energy schemes are fundamentally flawed and cannot work.

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I am completely fascinated with it, but my only question is if perpetual motion is achievable in space why don't we connect huge wire's to a machine lifted into space that constantly creates a giant force and never stops then is converted and sent down to earth?

I am not sure if I shed my idea in the best light, but for those who understand what I am trying to say could you please speculate with me I would love to see your thoughts.
 
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If you interact with a moving object in space so you can draw energy from it you'll slow it down in the process. So no perpetual motion there either. If you could wrap a coil in space around Earth you could use the rotation of Earth and it's magnetic field to produce large amounts of energy but just think of the size (cost) of the project, and it still wouldn't be a perpetual motion device. There are many crazy ways to produce energy but only a hand full of them are cost efficient.
 
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BobiG said:
There is no resistance in space so you're not creating any energy, if you interact with a moving object in space so you can draw energy from it you'll slow it down in the process. So no perpetual motion there either.

Haha thanks so much =]
 
scopeside said:
I am completely fascinated with it, but my only question is if perpetual motion is achievable in space why don't we connect huge wire's to a machine lifted into space that constantly creates a giant force and never stops then is converted and sent down to earth?

I am not sure if I shed my idea in the best light, but for those who understand what I am trying to say could you please speculate with me I would love to see your thoughts.

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scopeside said:
I am completely fascinated with it, but my only question is if perpetual motion is achievable in space why don't we connect huge wire's to a machine lifted into space that constantly creates a giant force and never stops then is converted and sent down to earth?

I am not sure if I shed my idea in the best light, but for those who understand what I am trying to say could you please speculate with me I would love to see your thoughts.

We do not discuss PMMs or Free Energy schemes at the PF. Here are two good links for understanding why PMMs and Free Energy cannot work:

http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/Free_Energy_Debunking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
 

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