Perpetual Motion Using Solar Energy

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The discussion revolves around the concept of perpetual motion, particularly in the context of using solar energy and other sources of "free energy" to sustain motion. Participants explore the definitions and implications of perpetual motion and whether utilizing external energy sources can be classified as such.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that using solar energy to reset a motion cycle could be considered perpetual motion if multiple free energy sources are utilized.
  • Another participant counters that this is merely solar power and not perpetual motion, emphasizing that the sun will not burn indefinitely.
  • A different participant reiterates the idea that using multiple free energy sources can sustain motion perpetually, arguing against the need for a perpetual motion machine.
  • Some participants clarify that any system relying on external energy sources, such as solar or hydroelectric power, does not meet the criteria for a perpetual motion machine, which traditionally generates its own energy.
  • One participant highlights the importance of understanding the definitions of terms used in physics when discussing these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus among participants. Some argue that using external energy sources does not constitute perpetual motion, while others maintain that motion can be sustained perpetually with multiple energy sources. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the classification of such systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of perpetual motion and the implications of using external energy sources, indicating a need for clarity in terminology.

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Hi Experts

I am wondering if my understanding of perpetual motion is correct.

I use solar energy to supply energy needed to reset the cycle of a motion.

In short, the extra energy needed to reset a cycle is provided by another source of free energy.

This way, the motion is kept perpetual using multi-sources of free energy to provide for the energy needed to reset the cycle, that is, to repeat the cycle .

Is this considered perpetual motion?

Thanks.
 
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No, that's just solar power. The sun won't burn forever.
 
ramonegumpert said:
Hi Experts

I am wondering if my understanding of perpetual motion is correct.

I use solar energy to supply energy needed to reset the cycle of a motion.

In short, the extra energy needed to reset a cycle is provided by another source of free energy.

This way, the motion is kept perpetual using multi-sources of free energy to provide for the energy needed to reset the cycle, that is, to repeat the cycle .

Is this considered perpetual motion?

Thanks.

Unless your system is used to power the sun, you are using an external power source (solar energy) to do work. This is no different than a hydroelectric turbine being turned by an external power source, which is water flow.

Please note that perpetual motion and overunity machines is a banned topic. This thread is being kept open because it is simply a misunderstanding of what "perpetual motion" is, and the neglected consideration of an external energy source going into the system.

Zz.
 
Thanks Experts, for allowing to ask the question.

My point is, using multiple free energy sources, motion can also be sustained perpetually.

So, there is no need for Perpetual motion as motion can be sustained perpetually using multiple free energy sources. The effect is still free energy perpetually.

Thanks and have a nice day.
 
ramonegumpert said:
Thanks Experts, for allowing to ask the question.

My point is, using multiple free energy sources, motion can also be sustained perpetually.

So, there is no need for Perpetual motion as motion can be sustained perpetually using multiple free energy sources. The effect is still free energy perpetually.

Thanks and have a nice day.

It's not perpetual. The Sun has a finite amount of fuel and will eventually stop emitting light.
 
ramonegumpert said:
Thanks Experts, for allowing to ask the question.

My point is, using multiple free energy sources, motion can also be sustained perpetually.

So, there is no need for Perpetual motion as motion can be sustained perpetually using multiple free energy sources. The effect is still free energy perpetually.

Thanks and have a nice day.

You are free to call it a cow if you wish in the privacy of your own home. However, you need to understand the definition of the terms you are using if you are communicating with other people, and especially its usage in physics. You are not free to simply redefine such terms to suit your needs.

Your system uses EXTERNAL ENERGY SOURCE to power it. Be it wind, solar, water, etc... When it does that, it is not a "perpetual motion machine". It does not generate and then use its own energy, which is the usual definition of what a perpetual motion is.

This question has been satisfactorily answered. Thread closed.

Zz.
 

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