Ph. D. in Materials Science or Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for pursuing a Ph.D. in either physics or materials science, particularly in the context of career options in R&D for semiconductors. Participants share their insights on the similarities and differences between the two fields, as well as personal experiences related to their academic paths.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to pursue a Ph.D. in physics or materials science, seeking advice on which degree might offer better career prospects in semiconductor R&D.
  • Another participant points out that condensed matter physicists study material science, suggesting that the distinction between the two fields may not be as significant as it seems.
  • Some participants note that the emphasis in physics and materials science programs may differ based on departmental affiliations, with one being more engineering-focused and the other more science-oriented.
  • A participant explains that while materials science may cover quantum concepts in a simplified manner, it also emphasizes structure and mechanical properties, which may not be as familiar to physics majors.
  • It is mentioned that physics and materials science students can collaborate in research groups, and the choice of department may be less important than the research interests and courses available.
  • One participant shares their experience as an MSE PhD student, expressing a desire for a physics undergraduate background while still being content with their current path.
  • A participant indicates they plan to apply to both physics and materials science programs, intending to make a final decision based on the specific department and school that aligns with their interests.
  • A later reply details ongoing research in ultrafast spectroscopy, highlighting the experimental focus of the participant's group and the specific project related to carrier dynamics at liquid-semiconductor junctions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of choosing between physics and materials science, with some suggesting that the distinction may not be critical. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which path may be more advantageous for a career in semiconductor R&D.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the curricula and research opportunities in both fields, as well as personal preferences that may influence the decision-making process.

Goalie33
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Hello,
I am currently getting ready to start applying Ph. D. programs, but I am unsure whether I want to continue with physics or materials science (I will graduate with degrees in both physics and materials science). I am wondering whether career options will be better for a physicist or materials scientist? I am interested in doing R&D in semiconductors as a career, and I was hoping someone could tell me what degree would be best.
Thanks

P.S. Feel free to add any personal experiences.
 
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You ARE aware that a condensed matter physicist is someone who is a physicist but studies material science, don't you? So why do you even have to choose one or the other?

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
You ARE aware that a condensed matter physicist is someone who is a physicist but studies material science, don't you? So why do you even have to choose one or the other?

Zz.

one is usually in an engineering department and the other is in the school of sciences so the emphasis is different? that's my guess.
 
clope023 said:
one is usually in an engineering department and the other is in the school of sciences so the emphasis is different? that's my guess.

Formally, yes, they are different. But technically? No. A condensed matter physics program can be as close to material science as one wants it. It depends very much on the subject area, the school, and the advisor.

Zz.
 
Hey Goalie33, I would private message you about my question because it's sidetracking the thread a bit but how different was majoring in Materials Science compared to Physics? Were they related well? I'm curious in both of those majors too so your experience will explain some, thanks.
 
They are similar in certain respects and very different in others. For instance, materials science learn quantum (a, shall we say, dumbed down version) when learning about electronic and magnetic materials. Other than that, materials scientist focus a lot on structure and mechanical properties (not something many physics majors know a ton about). In graduate mat sci programs I would most likely take a quantum course; but stat mech, higher level quantum, and em are not required of a mat sci major. I could take them as electives (many programs require that you take technical courses outside of the college of eng).
 
Physics students and materials science students could be in the same research group at the same university. At most schools you can work in a group outside your department, so you should just choose the research you want to do. The department you choose is just a name on your degree, and it determines the classes you take. The research is what matters in a PhD program. Just decide which classes are more interesting and choose that department.


For reference, I am an MSE PhD student who wishes he did an undergrad in physics instead, even though I would be happy to end up in the same place.
 
So it sounds like whichever program I decide I will be able to tailor it to my interests, by taking additional classes of my choice and getting in with a research group of my choice, this is good to hear. I will most likely apply to programs in both subjects and make the final decision based on the department and school that fits me best. Thank you for your help!

To johng23: What type of research are you doing for your PhD?
 
I'm working in a lab that does ultrafast spectroscopy. We do optical pump probe, THz pump probe, and also time-resolved x-ray diffraction or transient absorption. People in my group are looking at fs dynamics of optically induced phase changes in nanoparticles, or optical switching of ferroelectrics, for example. I am in my first year, so my project hasn't really taken off yet. My plan is to look at carrier dynamics at the liquid-semiconductor junction, relevant to photoelectrochemical cells. Our group is purely experimental right now - no one really does any theory.
 

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