Phase difference between two light waves of the same frequency

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The discussion revolves around the phase difference between two light waves of the same frequency, specifically addressing a scenario where one participant calculates a phase difference of 100º while another suggests the answer is 260º. The participants are exploring the implications of these values in the context of wave behavior.

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  • Participants are attempting to reconcile differing phase difference values and questioning how one can arrive at 260º from an initial calculation of 100º. There are suggestions to visualize the problem through graphing waves with various phase differences.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion and seeking clarification on the phase difference concept. Some have offered guidance on visualizing the problem through graphs, while others are still grappling with understanding the relationship between the two phase difference values.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for discussion. There is a focus on interpreting phase differences and the implications of choosing different reference points for waves.

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Homework Statement
Two light waves of the same frequency are represented by the diagram.


What could be the phase difference between the two waves?

A 150°
B 220°
C 260°
D 330°
Relevant Equations
phase difference = phase angle in this diagram...
the diagram.

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i found that the phase difference between them is 100º
but how is the answer 260
can someone please explain?
 
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Since 100 is not in the list, you need to pick another. And there is a best candidate.
 
BvU said:
Since 100 is not in the list, you need to pick another. And there is a best candidate.
is it 150º ? because it is the closest to 100º
 
Guessing, are we?
It is not 150, you already have the correct answer as quoted in #1
 
BvU said:
Guessing, are we?
It is not 150, you already have the correct answer as quoted in #1
i dont know how it came to be the answer...
 
As a useful exercise you could draw 4 graphs, each with two waves. The first one with a phase difference of150 degrees, the others with 220, 260 and 330
 
BvU said:
As a useful exercise you could draw 4 graphs, each with two waves. The first one with a phase difference of150 degrees, the others with 220, 260 and 330
drawing them, give me 5 mins and ill get back to you
 
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this is what i got for 260º
what next??
BvU said:
As a useful exercise you could draw 4 graphs, each with two waves. The first one with a phase difference of150 degrees, the others with 220, 260 and 330
 
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this one is for 220º
 
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i still dont understand it... :(
 
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hello478 said:
i still dont understand it... :(
The curves are ##\sin(\theta+\phi_1)## and ##\sin(\theta+\phi_2)##.
Suppose ##\phi_1+2\pi>\phi_2>\phi_1##. The phase difference is ##\phi_2-\phi_1##.
But ##\sin(\theta+\phi_1)=\sin(\theta+\phi_1+2\pi)##, so those are two representations of the same wave. So we could equally say the phase difference is ##\phi_1+2\pi-\phi_2##.
 
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If the phase difference between the first and the second is 100°, what is the phase difference between the second and first?
 
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hello478 said:
i still dont understand it... :(
My two-pennies-worth…

On the Post 1# diagram, call the larger-amplitude wave ‘A’ and the smaller-amplitude wave ‘B’.

A passes through (0, 0). The next 'matching' point on B is (100º,0). So the phase difference is (100 – 0 =) 100º.

But you could equally well say:

B passes through (100º, 0). The next 'matching' point on A is (360º, 0). So the phase difference is (360-100=) 260º.

Remember that an angle of (say) +260º is the same as an angle of -100º. You can choose which wave (A or B) is the reference.
 
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