Phase relation between two waves

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The discussion revolves around the phase relationship between two waves, specifically focusing on the interpretation of displacement-position and displacement-time graphs. Participants are exploring how the position of wave crests relates to their timing and how this affects the understanding of wave behavior.

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  • Participants are questioning the interpretation of wave positions and timings based on different graph types. There is an exploration of how the x-axis being position or time affects which wave is considered to lead.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the types of graphs and their implications on wave behavior. There is an acknowledgment of the confusion between displacement-position and displacement-time graphs, and how this relates to the leading of one wave over another.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of wave graphs and their interpretations, with some edits indicating ongoing clarification of concepts. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correct answer and the reasoning behind it.

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##\phi=\frac{2\pi x}{\lambda}##
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I answered A but the answer key is B.

I thought since the wave is moving to the right, P started first compared to Q (the crest of P is closer to y-axis compared to Q). Why is the correct answer B?

Thanks

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Wait, is it because the x-axis is position so the position of Q is in front of P (more to the right)?
If the x-axis is time, then P will lead Q since P starts earlier?
 
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Imagine that you are measuring the wave height at some arbitrary position on the x-axis. As the waves move towards you, which wave peak arrives first?

Also note that the x=0 location is arbitrary. That wave has no beginning, it comes from x → -∞ and goes to x → +∞
 
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songoku said:
Edit:

If the x-axis is time, then P will lead Q since P starts earlier?
Yes.
 
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songoku said:
I thought since the wave is moving to the right, P started first compared to Q (the crest of P is closer to y-axis compared to Q). Why is the correct answer B?

Thanks

Edit:
Wait, is it because the x-axis is position so the position of Q is in front of P (more to the right)?
If the x-axis is time, then P will lead Q since P starts earlier?
Say we have a transverse wave, moving in the +x direction, along a string.

There are 2 very different types of graph and it’s easy to get them confused.

I) A displacement-position (d-x) graph. This shows the shape of the wave. It’s basically a 'snapshot', showing the shape of the wave taken at some moment in time.

ii) A displacement-time (d-t) graph. This shows you how the displacement of single particle on the wave, at a fixed x-position, changes over time.

The graph in the Post #1 question is type i) – it’s a snapshot of 2 waves taken at the same moment. The waves are moving right; the wave labelled Q is clearly ahead (further to the right) of wave P. So we can say wave Q leads wave P (by a distance which is 1/8th of a wavelength).

If the graph were type ii), this would show that particle P reaches its (for example) maximum displacement at an earlier time than particle Q reaches its maximum displacement. We would describe this by saying ‘particle P leads particle Q’ (by 1/8th of a period).

Minor edits.
 
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I understand.

Thank you very much for the help and explanation DaveE, nasu, Steve4Physics
 
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