PhD in electronics engineering, where, why

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the considerations and implications of pursuing a PhD in electronics engineering, particularly in the context of career prospects, remuneration, and the value of a PhD in various countries. Participants explore the challenges faced by researchers, especially in Italy, and compare opportunities in other countries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about pursuing a PhD due to the poor research environment in Italy and the perception that a PhD is not valued by companies.
  • Another participant suggests considering opportunities in the USA or Canada as alternatives for pursuing a PhD.
  • A question is raised regarding the typical remuneration for PhD candidates in the USA.
  • Additional suggestions include exploring options in Germany, France, the UK, and Poland, noting that stipends often cover living expenses, though this may vary.
  • One participant questions whether a PhD is a waste of time and money, prompting a response that emphasizes the importance of genuine interest in the subject matter.
  • Another participant argues that pursuing a PhD is worthwhile for those passionate about research or teaching, although financial rewards in academia may not be substantial during the PhD process.
  • Concerns are raised about the financial outcomes after completing a PhD, with a suggestion that while industry salaries may be higher than those without graduate degrees, they may not be significantly increased unless specialized knowledge is acquired.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of a PhD, with some advocating for its pursuit based on passion for research, while others question its financial viability and relevance in industry. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall worth of a PhD in electronics engineering.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors influencing the decision to pursue a PhD, including financial considerations, personal interest, and the job market in different countries. There are indications of varying experiences and expectations regarding stipends and post-PhD remuneration.

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Hi, I'm an italian electronics engineer. I got the bachelor degree, and the next year I'll get the master degree.
Electronics and Physics fascinate me. I'd like to work in the research environment, but I'm not sure about this choice.
In Italy the situation for researchers is not good (see brain drain).
Additionally, in Italy (i don't know if also in other countries) a company sees a PhD like a waste of time, it's not considered as an added value.
I'd like to know where the researcher job is remunerative, and let me know what you advise me to do.
 
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Then come to USA or Canada
 
how much a PhD is paid from univerisity, in USA?
 
Or into Germany, France, the UK, even Poland.

Most places, your stipend (assuming you get one) usually allows you to cover your living expenses. Usually.
 
So,
a PhD is a waste of time (and money)?
 
Depends if you're really interested in what you're studying.
 
Who said the Ph.D. is a waste of time and money? If your passion is in research or teaching, then you should pursue a Ph.D. However, you (usually) don't go into academia for the money, and you're usually not going to be making very much while you're pursuing your Ph.D.

AFTER your Ph.D. (or Master's) will you make more in industry than someone who didn't go to graduate school? Usually. Massively more? No (unless you have some really specialized knowledge, or something you came up with in academia got patented or bought up). I don't know what you mean by 'remunerative' research jobs, but if that's your primary motivation, I'd say you should probably go into industry.

EDIT: That's the near-universal graduate student experience: short of having a massive scholarship or two, or industrial collaboration where you get paid engineering wages by a company, you're usually not making very much (though it's usually enough to live on).
 
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