Phd in the US after completing an Msc

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The discussion revolves around the process and timeline of pursuing a PhD in the USA after completing a Master's degree in particle physics. Participants explore factors that may influence the duration and structure of PhD programs, particularly in relation to prior research experience and specialization.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the duration of a PhD in the US can vary based on several factors, including the clarity of the research area and the specificity of the thesis topic.
  • Another participant suggests that finding a program that allows for direct engagement in PhD work, rather than starting with coursework, could be beneficial but may be challenging to locate.
  • There is mention of the European system where transitioning from an MSc to a PhD typically allows for immediate research involvement, contrasting with the US model.
  • A participant reflects on their own experience, indicating that having a well-defined research idea can facilitate the application process and potentially shorten the time to complete a PhD.
  • Some participants express interest in exploring opportunities in Europe, acknowledging the advantages of the MSc to PhD pathway there.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that having a clear research focus can expedite the PhD process, but there is no consensus on the specific duration or the best approach to take when transitioning from an MSc to a PhD in the US.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the variability in PhD program structures and the influence of prior research experience, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on individual timelines.

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I am currently offered to enroll for an Msc degree in my home university (Somewhere in asia).

The program is not "SUPER", but they are promising me a research year in DESY (germany) alongside the degree. The degree will take me 2 years.

I want to complete a Phd as well, but I am not planning to stay at the same university. My actual plan is to apply for a Phd in the USA.

So my question is: How long will it take me to finish a Phd in the US, if I already have a masters degree?

Edit: Assuming I stay in the same field of study. that is, particle physics.
 
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It will depend on many things, obviously. A way of speeding things up is if you have a clear-enough area of research, or, even better, a narrow-enough topic for your thesis and find someone willing to work with you, rather than starting a program without knowing what you will specialize in. I guess this applies mostly to those that go directly into a PhD from undergrad, but I think it may apply to your case of transferring from an Msc too.
 
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A place where you can directly start with the PhD work (instead of starting with coursework) would be good but can be difficult to find.
A PhD in Europe wouldn't have that issue, there you can directly start with research as MSc->PhD is the standard approach. The year at DESY also gives a good opportunity to look around for PhD positions...
 
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WWGD said:
A way of speeding things up is if you have a clear-enough area of research, or, even better, a narrow-enough topic for your thesis and find someone willing to work with you, rather than starting a program without knowing what you will specialize in.
Had this exact issue when I was applying for PhD and master degrees. A fresh graduate cannot have a good "panoramic" view of the field, one can only believe that such decision is right ^^".

So, taking your answer into consideration. I should take advantage of the following two years to make a concise research idea (or a good understanding of one specific field).

mfb said:
A PhD in Europe wouldn't have that issue, there you can directly start with research as MSc->PhD is the standard approach.

True, I am considering this possibility. There are many good universities in Europe. But, I want to take advantage of all the possibilities laid down to me.
 

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