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The discussion centers on the nature of photon interactions, specifically addressing why interference between independent photons does not occur and exploring the conditions under which photons may interact with each other or with charged particles. The scope includes theoretical considerations and references to experimental findings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Manish Mehta questions why interference between independent photons does not occur, suggesting that a photon can only interfere with itself.
  • Hans references an experimental study by R. Kaltenbaek et al. that may relate to the interference of independent photons.
  • Some participants explain that photons interact directly only with charged particles, and that indirect interactions between photons can occur through virtual charged particles, though these are rare and difficult to detect.
  • Daniel mentions scalar electrodynamics and the "seagull" term, which involves interactions between two photons, but notes that this is not part of the Standard Model.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of photon interactions, with some suggesting that indirect interactions are possible while others emphasize the limitations of direct photon interference. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interactions.

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The discussion includes references to specific theoretical frameworks and experimental studies, but does not resolve the complexities of photon interactions or the conditions under which they may occur.

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This is manish mehta I have a question regarding to photon
why does interference between photons doesnot occur.A photon can only interfere with itself give an example
 
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At the most fundamental level, photons can interact directly only with charged particles. From the point of view of Feynman diagrams, the only "vertices" that involve photons have two lines for charged particles and one line for the photon.

However, there are second-order processes in which two photons can interact indirectly, by using virtual charged particles. A Feynman diagram for one such process looks like a square box (for the charged particles) with wavy lines entering two corners and leaving two corners (for the incoming and outgoing photons). This is the sort of thing that Hans is referring to. Since it's a higher-order interaction, its probability is very low which makes it difficult to detect.
 
There's also the scalar electrodynamics in which the "seagull" term involves 2 photonic lines in lowest perturbation order. However, such an interaction is not part of the Standard Model.

But it's still possible.

Daniel.
 

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