Physical pendulum thin rods problem

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The problem involves calculating the frequency of oscillation for an L-shaped object formed by two identical thin rods, each with mass m and length L, balanced on a sharp edge. The correct frequency of oscillation is determined to be 1/4∏(√(6g/√(2L)). Key equations include the moment of inertia for a slender rod about one end, I = 1/3mL^2, and the relationship ω=√(mgd/I). The discussion highlights the importance of correctly identifying whether to calculate angular frequency or ordinary frequency, which was a common point of confusion.

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  • Understanding of moment of inertia, specifically I = 1/3mL^2 for slender rods.
  • Knowledge of angular frequency and ordinary frequency relationships.
  • Familiarity with the concept of center of mass in composite objects.
  • Basic principles of oscillation and harmonic motion.
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  • Learn about the relationship between angular frequency and ordinary frequency in oscillatory systems.
  • Explore the concept of center of mass in more complex geometries.
  • Investigate the effects of different pivot points on the oscillation frequency of rigid bodies.
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Homework Statement


Two identical thin rods, each with mass m and length L, are joined at right angles to form an L shaped object. This object is balanced on top of a sharp edge. If the L shaped object is deflected slightly, it oscillates. Find the frequency of oscillation.
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the correct answer is 1/4∏(√(6g/√(2L)).

Homework Equations


moment of inertia of a slender rod about one end: I = 1/3mL^2
ω=√(mgd/I)

The Attempt at a Solution


I think the center of mass is at 45° between the rods, √2/2L down from the pivot. Let me know if that is wrong. I think that would make d=√2/2L. So my main problem is in finding I. I know I for each rod, but I don't know how to use that to find I for the entire oscillating object.
 
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Moment of inertia is additive. If you know the moments of inertia of two bodies (with respect to one point), then the moment of inertia of the combined body (with respect to the same point) is the sum of the moments.
 
What do I do to take the angle into account?
 
Why would you? Are there any angles in the definition of the moment of inertia?
 
Well, no. But the answer I am getting is just a factor of pi/2 off from the correct answer, but I don't know where that is coming from.
 
What frequency are you supposed to find? Angular ##\omega## or ordinary ##f##?
 
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Oh my goodness, you're right. I've been looking for the angular frequency when this question calls for regular frequency. Thank you so much! I can't believe I wasted so much time on such a silly oversight :P
 

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