Physics 12 Momentum and work, energy question

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force exerted by a boy of mass 45 kg traveling at 14 m/s when a car stops suddenly, resulting in a collision with the windshield over a distance of 0.024 m. The initial calculation using momentum (p=mv) yielded a force of 26,250 N, which was deemed excessively high. Participants clarified that momentum and energy are distinct concepts, emphasizing that kinetic energy should be used to determine the force, as it relates to work done over distance. The conclusion is that the force will not be constant during the impact, and the question should specify a lower bound for the peak force.

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Q:A boy of mass 45 kg is traveling without a seat belt, in a car with a velocity of 14 m/s.
When the car stops suddenly, he is stopped by the windshield in a distance of 0.024m.
What force does he exert on the windshield?
i set the impulse of the vehicle (mv)= to FD (because (delta)E=W=Fd) and got a force of 2.6*10^4N. That seems to high of a force to me.

Calculations: p=mv ∇E=p=45(14)=630N*s ∇E=Fd 630=F*.024 solving for F i got 26250
 
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Momentum is not the same as energy. The units are not the same. So ∇E=p is false.

However, you could use kinetic energy. Set the change in kinetic energy to the work done making the change (F x d).
 
mass * velocity cannot be equated with force * distance; the first gives momentum, the second energy.
Since the question provides a distance and asks for the force acting over that distance, energy is the right quantity to consider. The answer should be much higher.
(However, it is not true that the force will be constant over the impact distance. The question ought to ask for a lower bound on the peak force.)
 

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