Physics Behind Weebles: Can You Build One?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of creating a human-sized Weeble, exploring the application of the center of mass concept in this context. Participants examine the calculations involved in determining the necessary mass at the base of a hemisphere to achieve stability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method to calculate the mass needed at the bottom of a hemisphere to create a stable Weeble, using the center of mass formula.
  • Another participant suggests that the person could be countersunk into the hemisphere to lower the center of mass and questions the placement of the mass M1.
  • A later reply acknowledges the need to adjust the position of M1 and recalculates the required mass to 500 kg, expressing disbelief at the large value needed to balance a 75 kg person.
  • One participant requests a mathematical model of the Weeble mechanism, indicating interest in the underlying principles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the placement of mass and the calculations involved, with no consensus reached on the feasibility of building a human Weeble or the accuracy of the mass calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants' calculations depend on assumptions about the size and density of the mass used, as well as the configuration of the system, which remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in physics, engineering, or design projects related to stability and center of mass concepts may find this discussion relevant.

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Weebles wobble but they don't fall. I came to know that they wobble and come back to position since the center of mass lies close to the bottom.
Can I apply the formula for center of mass and do a human weeble as in
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In that case if I consider a hemisphere of radius 60 cm and the average weight of a person as 70 Kg (M2) and height of the person as 175 cm. The center of mass of the person is at his middle at 87.5 cm (R2) from the top of the hemisphere. My aim is to find the mass (M1) to put at the bottom for it to act as a weeble. The center of mass of the system must be at the bottom say 30 cm (R1) from the ground into the hemisphere.
By considering a coordinate system with COM at (0,0), M1 at R1 (- 30,0) and M2 at (117.5,0)
M1 =( M2* R2) / R1
M1 = 70 * 117.5/ 30 = 274.2 kg

But this seems very large! Is it right?
Will I be able to build one?
 
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Sounds like a cool project. Is the person standing on top of the hemisphere? You could have the person countersunk into the hemisphere to reduce the center of mass. If you want the center of mass to be 30 cm above the bottom of the hemisphere, then you can't have M1 at (-30,0) since that's the bottom of the hemisphere. The mass has some size, so it would probably be somewhere like (-15,0). Maybe you could make the base out of lead. Concrete might not be dense enough.
 
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This is the model.
Khashishi said:
If you want the center of mass to be 30 cm above the bottom of the hemisphere, then you can't have M1 at (-30,0) since that's the bottom of the hemisphere. The mass has some size, so it would probably be somewhere like (-15,0).
Yes, I should have used something around (-15,0).Thanks!
In that case the mass goes to 500 kg ! Is it right? Its hard to believe we need 500 kg to balance 75 kg.
 
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Wow.Thats great.
 
hi there can you please send me the mathematical model of weeble mechanism
 

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