Physics book like spivak's calculus

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for physics and multivariable calculus books that match the rigor of Spivak's Calculus. Participants are seeking texts that provide a thorough understanding of electromagnetism and multivariable calculus, emphasizing formal rigor and mathematical depth.

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  • One participant requests suggestions for physics and multivariable calculus books as rigorous as Spivak's Calculus.
  • Another participant expresses doubt about the suitability of a suggested advanced physics text for someone also seeking multivariable calculus resources.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of Schwinger's text, with one participant sharing their struggle with it and suggesting that more mathematical background is needed.
  • Another participant recommends Fleming's "Functions in Several Variables" as a rigorous yet elementary multivariable calculus book that covers Stokes' theorem.
  • Spivak's "Calculus on Manifolds" and Munkres' "Analysis on Manifolds" are mentioned as multivariable calculus texts similar in rigor to Spivak's original work, with a note on the varying difficulty of chapters.
  • A suggestion is made to consider Bachman's "A Geometric Approach to Differential Forms" as a more elementary guide to the subject matter of advanced chapters in "Calculus on Manifolds."

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Participants express differing opinions on the appropriateness and difficulty of various texts, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the best resources for rigorous study in physics and multivariable calculus.

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Some participants note the need for a solid mathematical foundation to tackle certain texts, and there are mentions of varying levels of rigor and accessibility among the recommended books.

Bashir Saddad
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Hello,
I am studying electromagnetism and I can't skip a topic and go to the next unless I learn it. Can anyone please suggest a physics book and a calculus book on multivariables as rigorous as spivak's calculus?
thanks
 
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Bashir Saddad said:
Hello,
I am studying electromagnetism and I can't skip a topic and go to the next unless I learn it. Can anyone please suggest a physics book and a calculus book on multivariables as rigorous as spivak's calculus?
thanks
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0738200565/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
clope023 said:

This book is very difficult to read. Schwinger is famous for treating physics "overly formal". I attempted it a few years ago and quickly gave up, realizing I needed more math ( I resorted to Morse&Feshbach which led to another disaster...)
 
sunjin09 said:
This book is very difficult to read. Schwinger is famous for treating physics "overly formal". I attempted it a few years ago and quickly gave up, realizing I needed more math ( I resorted to Morse&Feshbach which led to another disaster...)

I see what you mean, I tend to like formal rigour so Schwinger's text seems right up my alley. I wouldn't have even looked at it unless I had my courses in complex variables, PDE's and Fourier analysis though and even skimming the book seems very daunting. For a junior senior undergrad without as much math probably wangsness is a better text.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471811866/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
For multivariable, I can recommend Fleming's "Functions in several variables". Quite rigorous and complete book, but also elementary. It goes right up to proving Stokes theorem.
 
Spivak's 'Calculus on Manifolds' is a multivariable calculus book similar in rigor to Spivak's 'Calculus', as is Munkre's 'Analysis on Manifolds'. You should be able to handle the first 3 chapters of Calc on Manifolds with little issue (no issue if you have some linear algebra under your belt). Chapters 4 and 5 are much more difficult IMO.

You can try going right into them, but if it turns out to be too much Bachman's 'A Geometric Approach to Differential Forms' is a more elementary (but less rigorous) guide to the subject matter of these chapters. You could read this to get a feel for the material, and then go back to Calculus on Manifolds. If I recall correctly, both books are around 130 pages. Bachman's book mostly has problems with calculations as opposed to proofs, which would also be useful.
 

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