Physics books with less math and more words

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for physics books that are accessible to high school students with limited mathematical background, particularly in the areas of particle physics, quantum mechanics, and elementary particles. Participants explore options that emphasize verbal explanations over mathematical rigor.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for physics books that require minimal mathematical knowledge, specifically avoiding calculus.
  • Another suggests a book from Amazon, noting that it may suit the original poster's needs based on reviews.
  • A different participant references a website with various physics books, indicating that some do not exceed basic calculus and recommending "Mechanics" and "Calculus" for foundational understanding.
  • There is a mention that understanding introductory physics is crucial before tackling quantum mechanics, emphasizing the importance of foundational knowledge.
  • One participant recommends "Conceptual Physics" by Hewitt, suggesting it aligns well with the needs of someone looking for less math-intensive material.
  • Another participant highlights "Flying Circus" as a fun book that addresses real-life problems but may not provide a systematic learning approach.
  • Discussion arises about the necessity of programming skills in physics careers, with mixed feelings about its relevance and enjoyment.
  • Some participants reflect on their initial disinterest in programming, suggesting that it can become more engaging with exposure and is akin to solving physics problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of "Conceptual Physics" as a suitable recommendation, but there are differing opinions on the necessity and enjoyment of programming in physics careers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to learning physics without a strong math background.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of comfort with mathematics and programming, indicating that personal preferences and experiences may influence their recommendations. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of learning physics without calculus or the role of programming in physics-related careers.

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i am really interested in physics (Mostly particle physics, quantum mechanics and elementary particles) and i have finally decided that i want to get a physics book to read. Unfortunately i am a high school student and only have about a gr11 knowledge on math and physics (no calculus yet). Can anyone recommend we any physics books i can learn from that don't require the knowledge of math that i do not have, so maybe books which are basically all words. Theirs got to be some?:frown:
 
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There are a few different books here depending on how comfortable you are with the math. None go beyond basic calculus. If you are really interested in physics you should read the "Mechanics" one and "Calculus".

If you are really interested in elementary particles, you have a lot to learn before you get to that subject. The introductory stuff actually turns out to be more important that you might thing when you get to QM.

There are also a bunch of pop-sci books that can satiate your need for fringe physics, but don't put too much faith in their every word.

(also, if you are interested in physics as a profession, learn to program)
 
DrewD said:
(also, if you are interested in physics as a profession, learn to program)

Why program? Do you actually need it for every physics job because i tried programming and really found it boring?
 
You might really like 'Conceptual physics' by Hewitt.

'Flying circus', suggested by Jorriss is a really good book, but it isn't ordered to make you learn the concepts systematically. Its more of a book that takes fun real life problems and deals with the physics behind them.
 
NeptuniumBOMB said:
Why program? Do you actually need it for every physics job because i tried programming and really found it boring?

For most, if not all, theoretical physics jobs, some programming will be required. For experimental research, I'm sure computer literacy (including UNIX) is important, but programming may not be as important.

I also was bored by programming when I was younger. It seemed tedious and most books spend way too much time talking about things that are meaningless until you know how to write basic programs. When I went to college, I had to take a programming class and about a quarter of the way through I realized that programming is really like solving physics problems. Even if you don't find it interesting now, I bet you'll like it more than you think as you get more exposure. It's better to learn the fundamentals of physics.
 
Here's another vote for 'Conceptual Physics' by Paul G. Hewitt. The most advanced that his math gets is the use of the proportionality symbol.
 

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