Physics - electrostatic exercise with 4 charges at the corners of a square

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The discussion revolves around an electrostatic problem involving four charges positioned at the corners of a square. Participants are attempting to analyze the forces acting on the charges and how they interact with each other.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the arrangement of charges and the resultant forces acting on them. Questions about the initial conditions and the relationships between the forces are raised, particularly regarding balancing forces and the implications of charge values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have begun to outline potential approaches to the problem, including drawing force vectors and considering the conditions for equilibrium. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between different force vectors, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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There is a request for a visual representation of the problem, indicating that the understanding of the setup may be incomplete. Participants are also noting that the problem does not involve calculus, which may influence the methods discussed.

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Homework Statement
A charge Q1 is fixed in each of the two opposite vertices of the square,
a Q2 charge is placed in each of the other two opposite vertices.
a) Express Q1 through Q2 if the resulting electrostatic
the force acting on each charge Q1 is zero.
b) There is such a value of Q2 for which the resultant electrostatic force would
acting on each of the four charges was zero? Can you explain it to me please
Relevant Equations
I do not understand the procedure of integrations/derivations from which a formula will be created according to which I will calculate.
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Welcome to PF, Hanz.

Is there a figure that is associated with this exercise? If so, can you scan it and use the "Attach files" link to upload it? I'm not sure I'm understanding the problem statement if the two Q1 have the same value and the two Q2 have the same value...
 
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After thinking about it more I think I see a solution for part (a). Start with the Q1 charges negative, and the Q2 charges positive, and draw them at the vertices of the square. Then draw the resultant force vectors due to the electrostatic charges, and think about what the values have to be to balance out the forces on the Q1 charges.
 
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In your drawing, ##\vec F_{123}## is the hypotenuse of a right triangle with right sides ##\vec F_{12}## and ##\vec F_{13}##. What should the relation of ##\vec F_{14}## be to these for the net force on the charge in the upper left corner to be zero?
 
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In your diagram, you have an expression for ##\vec F_{12}## and one for ##\vec F_{123}##. Can you combine them?
You have not written an expression for ##\vec F_{14}##.

There are no integrations nor differentiations to be done.
 
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