How to Solve Dynamics Exercise Involving Force Representation?

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The discussion revolves around solving a dynamics exercise involving two blocks and a spring. The user is struggling particularly with questions four and five, despite having calculated some values for earlier questions. Participants suggest focusing on the forces acting on the blocks, particularly the spring force and static friction, and emphasize the importance of drawing free body diagrams to visualize the problem. There is a call for cooperation between those seeking help and those providing it, highlighting that understanding the problem is essential for learning. Overall, the thread underscores the necessity of clear communication and foundational calculations in tackling complex physics problems.
  • #51
srnixo said:
If B hasn't moved yet, does this mean he has only two forces? ( The weight and contact force?)
No, it just means the forces are still all in balance, so B is not yet accelerating.
Vertically, the gravitational force balances the normal force from the ground, while horizontally the compression in the spring balances the static friction force.

In q5, we are told it is about to move. This means the static friction force has reached its limit.
 
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  • #52
PeroK said:
In my analysis, block A moves 1 cm then stops. Block B does not move.
Are you assuming the applied force is constant? Since we are told A moves at a constant speed, it must be increasing.
 
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  • #53
haruspex said:
Are you assuming the applied force is constant? Since we are told A moves at a constant speed, it must be increasing.
Which is physically impossible, without yet more unstated assumptions.

If the force on A is changing in some unspecified way, how can you calculate it in part 5? The applied force on block A could be anything by the time block B moves.

I don't understand trying to make sense of an ill-conceived, ill-posed problem.
 
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  • #54
PeroK said:
Which is physically impossible, without yet more unstated assumptions.

If the force on A is changing in some unspecified way, how can you calculate it in part 5? The applied force on block A could be anything by the time block B moves.

I don't understand trying to make sense of an ill-conceived, ill-posed problem.
We know that block A is moving at constant speed at [just prior to anyway] the time in question. So we know its acceleration. So we can write down a force balance. All of the other forces on block A are knowable. So we can solve for ##\vec{F}## at that time. [Technically a one sided derivative, but we can let that slide]
 
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  • #55
jbriggs444 said:
We know that block A is moving at constant speed at the time in question. So we know its acceleration. So we can write down a force balance. All of the other forces on block A are knowable. So we can solve for ##\vec{F}## at that time.
No we don't. It only moves at constant speed for 2 cm. Block B doesn't move at that point.
 
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  • #56
PeroK said:
No we don't. It only moves at constant speed for 2 cm. Block B doesn't move at that point.
OK, I'll concede that.
 
  • #57
Thread is closed temporarily for Moderation, bruh.
 
  • #58
srnixo said:
[+ I am one of those people who, if they see the solution directly, take a certain amount of time to find the steps of this solution. It is not a requirement that finding the solution directly is a bad thing and makes the student lazy.]
Being unable to find the solution directly is not a good thing. There's really not much learning going in when someone has to see the solution and then reverse-engineers the steps to it.

srnixo said:
And let you know, I also don't have the time. I still have to study mathematics, chemistry, and Computer science as well.
Maybe you have bitten off more than you can chew.
 
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After a Mentor discussion, the thread will remain closed. Thank you to all who tried to help this poster.
 
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