Physics Experiment: Calculating G from T

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics experiment aimed at calculating the acceleration due to gravity (g) from the period (T) of a pendulum. Participants explore the rearrangement of the formula T = 2 * Pi * sqrt(l / g) to express g in terms of T and l, discussing various approaches to the mathematical manipulation involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about rearranging the equation to solve for g, presenting two potential formulas: g = l/(t/tpi)^2 and g = 4pi^2L/T^2.
  • Another participant suggests squaring the original equation and rearranging it, prompting further exploration of the steps involved.
  • Several participants engage in step-by-step manipulation of the equation, discussing the correct application of squaring terms and the placement of variables.
  • There is a back-and-forth regarding the correct form of the equation after squaring, with participants correcting each other on the placement of terms and the need to square each component separately.
  • Ultimately, participants arrive at the expression g = 4pi^2*l / T^2 through collaborative reasoning and corrections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the steps to rearranging the equation, but there are moments of confusion and correction regarding the proper manipulation of terms. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the mathematical process without reaching a definitive conclusion on the final expression until the last posts.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of mathematical steps and the assumptions made during the rearrangement process. Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of the manipulation of square roots and the implications of squaring terms.

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morning ladies n gents

just wondering has anyone studied this physics experiment before? I have to do it as part of my last year at uni as I didnt do physics at college ( chose mechanics much more interesting!)

anyway its apparently been the same exam for the last 4/5 years but the lecturers give you no help in advance and just give you this equation:

T = 2 * Pi * sqrt(l / g)

T = period (in seconds)
Pi = 3.14...
sqrt = root of ...
l = length of pendulum in m
g = acceleration in m/s^2 (9.81)

I am wondering if anyone has done this experiment but working out G rather than t? if so what would the formula be rearranged? I have found 2 through some googling :

1. g = l/(t/tpi)^2
2. g = 4pi^2L/T^2

Sorry if this is in the wrong section please move if it is
 
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good morning, donniemateno! :wink:
donniemateno said:
T = 2 * Pi * sqrt(l / g)

square this equation, then re-arrange it …

what do you get? :smile:
 
Quote by donniemateno
T = 2 * Pi * sqrt(l / g)
square this equation, then re-arrange it …
what do you get?

g = sqrt (2*pi*l )/ T?
 
hi donniemateno! :smile:

why aren't there more squares there? :confused:
 
g = sqrt (2*pi*l )/ T^2

I think

Im really not very good at rearranging formulas

I understand the concept of taking one from one side to the other through division but get lost when sqreroots are involved
 
a square roots becomes a ^2 so does that mean:

g =(2*pi*l)^2/ T^2
 
ok, then do it one step at a time :wink:

first, square T = 2 *π* √(l / g) without any rearranging …

what do you get? :smile:
 
first, square T = 2 *π* √(l / g) without any rearranging

I'm going to say

T^2=2*pi*(l/g)?
 
T2 correct :smile:

(l/g) correct :smile:
 
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is the next step to divide by 2 pi? if so would that be :

T^2 / 2*pi = (l/g)?
 
  • #11
whoa!

go back … your 2 *π was not correct …

you needed to square it! :wink:
 
  • #12
would pi become 4 pi?
 
  • #13
yup! :smile:

T = 2 *π* √(l / g)

becomes

T2 = 4 *π2* (l / g) :wink:

(you see how you have to square each term separately?)


ok, now get g on the left and T2 on the right :smile:
 
  • #14
so next if i divide by g to get

T2 / g = (4 *π2* (l / g)) / g

then divide by t^2 to move it over giving me

g = (4pi*l)/T^2
 
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donniemateno said:
so next if i divide by g to get

T2 / g = (4 *π2* (l / g)) / g

divide by g?? :confused:
 
  • #16
would it become

t^2*g = 4pi^2*l

then

g = 4pi*l / T^2?
 
  • #17
(you mean g = 4pi2*l / T2 :wink:)

yes! :smile:
 

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