Physics field with most academic jobs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the prospects of academic jobs in various fields of physics, particularly focusing on which areas may offer better opportunities for postdoctoral positions and professorships. Participants explore the implications of current job markets and future trends in academia.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about the scarcity of professorships compared to the number of PhDs, suggesting that postdoc positions may not be the primary worry.
  • Others argue that focusing solely on job prospects may detract from genuine interest in a field, emphasizing the importance of passion in scientific study.
  • There is a suggestion that understanding current job markets may not be useful for predicting future opportunities, as trends can shift dramatically over time.
  • One participant highlights the importance of the applications of a field rather than the field itself, mentioning the relevance of medical and military applications in driving job prospects.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that experimental physics may offer more job opportunities compared to theoretical physics, with solid-state physics being a particularly promising area due to its size and funding availability.
  • Participants discuss the value of mastering experimental techniques, which can be applied across various materials and research areas, enhancing job prospects regardless of the specific field of study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best field for academic jobs in physics, with multiple competing views on the importance of current job trends, the relevance of personal interest, and the distinction between experimental and theoretical physics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the uncertainty of future job markets, the dependence on specific applications within fields, and the variability of funding across different areas of research.

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I know job prospects in academia suck, but what, to the best of your knowledge, is the field in physics with the most promising future as far as jobs is concerned?
By getting a Ph.D. in what field do you stand a better chance of getting a postdoc position?
 
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It is not really a postdoc you should be worried about. There are a good number of postdocs - it is the professorships that are seriously lacking (compared to the number of phds with the assumption that a large majority of phds want a professorship).
 
There are two problems with this line of reasoning. One is the attitude "I don't care what I am studying so long as I get a job" is not conducive to success in any scientific field; you need to be studying something you truly care about.

Second, you don't want to know what field is promising now: you want to know what is promising 7-12 years from now. And nobody can answer that.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
There are two problems with this line of reasoning. One is the attitude "I don't care what I am studying so long as I get a job" is not conducive to success in any scientific field; you need to be studying something you truly care about.

Second, you don't want to know what field is promising now: you want to know what is promising 7-12 years from now. And nobody can answer that.

I was well aware about getting responses like your first point. The thing is: if you absolutely love 2 fields in physics, and you could put your heart into both, but you knew you could land an academic job in one but not in the other (or at least less probably), which one would you choose? Of course you can tell me to just choose the one I prefer, but sometimes you just can't decide, you love them both. And it's not like I would decide just based on job prospects, but that definitely goes into the equation... THAT'S ALL.

And yes, I know nobody knows that second point, and that is why I'm not asking that. But knowing what's going on today might at least give me a hint.
 
No, knowing what is going on today is useless. Perhaps worse than useless. If I say "Subfield X has a shortage", and everyone jumps on it, in 7-12 years, there will be a glut.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
No, knowing what is going on today is useless. Perhaps worse than useless. If I say "Subfield X has a shortage", and everyone jumps on it, in 7-12 years, there will be a glut.

Ok... then tell what's going on today so I can ignore that ;)
 
It's not really your field so much as what applications your field has.

And... there's always the harmonious symbiotic relationship between the two mutually propelling subjects who's pocketbooks have a history of permeating several fields:

Medical and Military

You can find lots of scientific fields (tuned to your interests, via Vanadium's suggestion) that have applications within the MM duo. I.e. this doesn't mean "medical physics" or "military physics". Your could study acoustics for detection, optics for communications, transient spatiotemporal dynamics in epilepsy, tissue/optics interaction for biomedical.

The skies the limit : )
 
I would say string theory is promising if they can find one unified theory of everything in universe. As of now though, ...hmm
 
The best "general" answer one can give is that there are more jobs for experimentalists than for theorists (although there are of course also more experimentalists). Moreover, solid-state physics is by far the biggest field in physics so it is safe to assume that there will always be funding for applied SS research (semiconductor physics, surface physics etc).
Hence, from a "job optimization" point of view you should probably stay away from cosmology etc.

Your best bet is to learn one (or a few) experimental techniques well, simply because if you know how to e.g. do electrical measurements or microscopy or whatever, these techniques can always be used on "hot new material X" (currently graphene); even if that materials is very different from the material you studied as a PhD student.
Most researchers that I know have studied many different types of systems throughout their careers; but they tend to study them using the techniques they know best.
The best example I can think of is a microscopist who started out studying metal surfaces, then moved onto soft materials, to food (yoghurt)and now most recently brain tissue (alzheimer's research). The common denominator is the environmental SEM she uses.
 

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