Can quantum mechanics be used to explain electric current in materials?

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The discussion centers on whether quantum mechanics can adequately explain the phenomenon of electric current in materials. Participants explore the relationship between classical electromagnetism and quantum mechanics in the context of electron flow and energy levels in conductors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that electric current can be explained through classical electromagnetism, highlighting the net flow of free electrons through a wire.
  • Others argue that electrons are fundamentally part of quantum electrodynamics, suggesting that classical explanations are insufficient.
  • One participant notes that the energy levels of individual atoms do not significantly affect electric flow unless electrons are excited enough to be knocked free.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of band theory, proposing that the overlap of conduction and valence bands allows for electron movement under an electric field, indicating a quantum mechanical perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of quantum mechanics in explaining electric current, with no consensus reached on the appropriateness of using quantum mechanics versus classical electromagnetism.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of energy levels and the conditions under which electrons can be excited. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of how energy transfer occurs at the atomic level.

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Electric current can be studied using classical electromagnetism. In that case, the explanation is that there is a net flow of free electrons through a wire, say.

Looking more close on the situation, what happens is that there is a difference on the energy level of some atoms and electrons can flow from one to another. -- Excuse me if I'm wrong at this point.

Anyways, my question is, Is it appropriate to explain the phenomenon of electric current using quantum mechanics? Maybe, the electrons get excited and jump off from one energy level to another one?
 
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davidge said:
Electric current can be studied using classical electromagnetism. In that case, the explanation is that there is a net flow of free electrons through a wire, say.
Electrons are not part of classical electromagnetism. They are part of quantum electrodynamics.
 
Electric current is the flow of electrons on the surface of a wire, or other conducting surface. The energy levels of individual atoms within the wire really don't effect the electric flow unless they become so excited that electrons are knocked free.

The flow of energy from one atom to another does not happen through electrical current. If one atom collides with another, it can transfer momentum the same as any two colliding bodies. On the quantum mechanical level, an energetic atom, wanting to be in its lowest energy state, will emit a photon. A second atom can then absorb that photon, thus transferring the energy of one atom to another.
 
davidge said:
Anyways, my question is, Is it appropriate to explain the phenomenon of electric current using quantum mechanics?
Yes this is the premise of band theory for solids. If the conduction band and valence band overlap then the material is a conductor. This is because there are open states just above the ground states of the valence electrons (the spacing between states is generally on the order of ##10^{-22}##eV). This means that even a tiny electric field can get electrons to jump into a slightly higher energy state where they can move through the material.
 

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