Physics or Engineering comparison?

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The discussion revolves around the comparison between physics and engineering as fields of study and career paths. Participants explore various aspects such as job satisfaction, pay, the amount of science involved, and potential career opportunities in both domains.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that engineering and physics are fundamentally different, with engineering focusing on the application of science and practical problem-solving, while physics is more theoretical and research-oriented.
  • There is a discussion about the types of roles available for physicists outside of academia, with some noting that such positions are less common and often involve engineering tasks.
  • Participants mention that top research facilities for physicists include CERN and NASA, but there may be other significant institutions, such as LIGO, that could also employ physics graduates.
  • Some express the view that physics is perceived as more difficult than engineering, with a humorous suggestion that those who switch from physics to engineering are "smart" for recognizing the challenges of physics.
  • Others argue that both fields have their own difficulties and that suitability varies among individuals, emphasizing personal interest over perceived difficulty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that both physics and engineering have unique challenges and career paths, but there is no consensus on which field is superior or more beneficial. The discussion reflects multiple competing views regarding the nature of each discipline and the career opportunities they provide.

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Some limitations in the discussion include a lack of specific examples of non-academic roles for physicists and varying definitions of what constitutes "difficulty" in each field. The conversation also reflects personal opinions and experiences rather than established facts.

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I love physics/maths/ETC..

I'M considering physics and doing relevant preparation(Only in y11(15 years old))...

Just wondering if there are any benefits to engineering in comparison?

This include all aspects like satisfaction/pay/Amount of science involved/ETC...?

Thanks
 
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Nobody can say if there are any benefits to engineering over physics (or physics over engineering) except you.

Bear in mind that engineering and physics are completely different beasts. How do you feel about being in academia, doing research? On the other hand, do you picture yourself working in industry, designing products, building stuff? It's the kind of question you should ask yourself. The amount of science involved is quite different. Engineers study basic physics (mechanics, electricity and magnetism, thermodynamics...) as a way of learning the fundamentals to more advanced stuff that you will apply in real world engineering problems. Engineering is the application of science. You won't be concerned only with the physics and the math: you will have to analyze costs, go on meetings, manage people. You will learn a great deal of science, too, but you won't be deriving equations everyday when you get to work (you won't ever do that, actually).

Of course you could get into a R&D (research and development) position, and I fear you would get to use more of your science background to develop new ideas for projects and products inside a company.
 
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ramzerimar said:
Nobody can say if there are any benefits to engineering over physics (or physics over engineering) except you.
Bear in mind that engineering and physics are completely different beasts. How do you feel about being in academia, doing research? On the other hand, do you picture yourself working in industry, designing products, building stuff? It's the kind of question you should ask yourself. The amount of science involved is quite different. Engineers study basic physics (mechanics, electricity and magnetism, thermodynamics...) as a way of learning the fundamentals to more advanced stuff that you will apply in real world engineering problems. Engineering is the application of science. You won't be concerned only with the physics and the math: you will have to analyze costs, go on meetings, manage people. You will learn a great deal of science, too, but you won't be deriving equations everyday when you get to work (you won't ever do that, actually). Of course you could get into a R&D (research and development) position, and I fear you would get to use more of your science background to develop new ideas for projects and products inside a company.

Thanks!

Are there any other roles for physics apart from research and where are the top place for physicist to work like CERN or NASA?
 
VNN said:
Thanks!

Are there any other roles for physics apart from research and where are the top place for physicist to work like CERN or NASA?
Someone else probably could answer to this better than me (I'm into engineering, not physics), but there are positions for physicists outside academia (although this is probably not that common). Sometimes, physicists end up working in engineering positions (but that is not common, also). As for NASA and CERN, I think that the physicists working in there will be PhDs doing academic work, since those places are all doing research.
 
ramzerimar said:
Someone else probably could answer to this better than me (I'm into engineering, not physics), but there are positions for physicists outside academia (although this is probably not that common). Sometimes, physicists end up working in engineering positions (but that is not common, also). As for NASA and CERN, I think that the physicists working in there will be PhDs doing academic work, since those places are all doing research.

Do you know any other top research facilities apart from CERN and NASA?..

Also i often hear the physics as a degrees a lot more difficult and people who move from physics to engineering are smart because they know that physics is too difficultly(Joke obviously) but is there any degree of truth to this?
 
VNN said:
Do you know any other top research facilities apart from CERN and NASA?..

Also i often hear the physics as a degrees a lot more difficult and people who move from physics to engineering are smart because they know that physics is too difficultly(Joke obviously) but is there any degree of truth to this?
LIGO comes to mind (https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/).

Probably there are many national labs where someone with a physics degree could work, but I can't name them.

Physics IS difficult, and also is engineering. Where I study, physics is the course with the highest dropout rate. But if you are passionate about it, you will overcome that. I know people that moved from physics to engineering, and also people that moved from engineering to physics. It's not about being difficult or not, it's about one course or the other not being your thing. Many students go after a engineering degree just to find out that it wasn't what they expected, and the same things happens with physics.
 
VNN said:
Do you know any other top research facilities apart from CERN and NASA?..

Also i often hear the physics as a degrees a lot more difficult and people who move from physics to engineering are smart because they know that physics is too difficultly(Joke obviously) but is there any degree of truth to this?

It's big a case of 'what is more difficult than the other', they all have their difficulties and some people are more suited to physics, some people are suited more to engineering.

As for top facilities - Google it, it's not that hard. There are hundreds of brilliant places to work at. We're here to advise, not do your work for you. Only you know what you'll be interested in.
 

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