Physics Practical: Check proportionality

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around demonstrating the inverse proportionality between two variables related to a physics practical involving height and angle. The original poster seeks clarification on a mark scheme's reference to a 20% margin in calculations related to this relationship.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of calculating values and uncertainties to check for inverse proportionality. Questions arise regarding the meaning of the 20% margin in the mark scheme and the appropriateness of the measurements used. There are also considerations about the realism of the problem setup and the implications of the height and angle relationship.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions made in the problem setup and exploring the implications of the calculations. Some guidance is provided regarding the interpretation of units and the significance of the 20% uncertainty, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach or conclusions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the units used for the square root of height and express concerns about the adequacy of the measurements for drawing conclusions. The discussion also touches on hypothetical scenarios that challenge the realism of the problem.

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For part d), how to show that they are inversely proportional to each other ? The mark scheme states:

"Correct calculation to check inverse proportionality. √h x cosϑ = k. Sensible comments relating to calculations to within 20% or their own value and suggested relation."

What do they mean by 20%?

Homework Equations


Percentage uncertainty = (uncertainty/measured value) x100%

The Attempt at a Solution


My values are,

√h = (2.95±0.1) cm, cos θ = 0.50. k1 = 2.95 x 0.50 = 1.475
√h = (2.30±0.1) cm, cos θ = 0.64, k2 = 2.30 x 0.64 = 1.472

I calculated the percentage difference of k,
((1.475-1.472) /1.472 ) x 100% = 0.2%

Then I calculated the uncertainty of √h = (0.1 / 2.30) x 100% = 4.3%

This is the method I followed from a textbook, so what does the 20% in the mark scheme represents ? Hope you all understand what I'm doing here..
 
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The square root of a height should not have centimeters as units.

A 20% uncertainty which the quoted text might suggest would be very large.

I don't like the way the problem is set up. With just those two measurements, it is not reasonable to draw any conclusions about the relation between h and θ.

Fun exercise: calculate the height h which allows tilting the bottle by 90 degrees without tipping over. Is this realistic?
 
mfb said:
The square root of a height should not have centimeters as units.

A 20% uncertainty which the quoted text might suggest would be very large.

I don't like the way the problem is set up. With just those two measurements, it is not reasonable to draw any conclusions about the relation between h and θ.

Fun exercise: calculate the height h which allows tilting the bottle by 90 degrees without tipping over. Is this realistic?

Oh yeah, was not aware, sorry.

Hmm.. what do you mean tilting the bottle by 90 degrees?
 
Which height h corresponds to θ=0? Is that realistic?
What happens if you reduce h a bit more?
 

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