Physics vs Engineering (Research vs Engineering)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for a college applicant choosing between Physics and Engineering programs. Participants explore the implications of this choice on future career paths, personal interests, and the nature of the respective fields, including their academic structures and professional outcomes.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their interests and seeks opinions on whether to apply for Physics or Engineering, emphasizing that financial considerations are not a factor.
  • Another participant suggests that self-discovery during the first two years of college will help clarify the applicant's preferences between research and engineering, noting that switching fields may be feasible.
  • A participant shares their strategy of applying to Physics at the University of Michigan due to easier acceptance, while also considering the option to apply to Engineering at other institutions.
  • Concerns are raised about potential overcrowding in Engineering programs compared to Physics, with the latter possibly being more accommodating for new students.
  • It is noted that Engineering is a professional degree focused on preparing students for specific careers, while Physics emphasizes scientific investigation and theoretical concepts, with both fields sharing foundational coursework initially.
  • One participant advises that if the applicant is inclined towards engineering, they should pursue that path, whereas if they are more interested in Physics, they should choose accordingly. They also recommend exploring both fields further through job shadowing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of choosing between Physics and Engineering, with no consensus reached on the best approach. Some emphasize the importance of personal interest and self-discovery, while others focus on practical considerations like program acceptance and career preparation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific information on individual programs, potential variations in departmental acceptance rates, and the subjective nature of personal interests and career goals.

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I am applying to college this year (really soon). Almost all the colleges I am applying to have stellar Physics and Engineering departments (as well as math and sciences in general). However, on my application I have to choose a college to apply to. It comes down to Engineering and Science and most of the time I can only apply to one... Which one should I apply to?

The question has nothing to do with money I am confused. I just want to hear other peoples opinions (no one talk about money).
 
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You do not know yourself yet. You will know yourself a little at least, after about 2 years of college. You picked a simple question about choosing between research and engineering. If you have not done any research and if you have not done any design or development work, then you do not know which to choose between Physics and Engineering. Find out at each institution where you apply, which is the easier program to gain undergraduate acceptance. If you are qualified to one department, you are most likely qualified for the other department too.

As you learn to understand yourself, you can switch fields, probably without significant obstacles.
 
This is what I have been doing. For example, at University of Michigan I am applying for Physics because it is easier to get into (for me) than the College of Engineering. However, when applying to a lot of schools you can just apply to the College of Engineering and if you don't get in there you can still get into the college of science and arts (or letters and science or whatever).

I want to understand myself. I am not looking for someone to make a decision for me, but I wan't to hear what opinions others have. Thank you very much symbolipoint (this is actually exactly what I needed to hear. I knew it already, but I needed to see it)
 
Some departments at certain/some schools might be overcrowded and may not be able to easily accept new students in your chosen major field. Physics would likely not be impacted in this way. Engineering would be expected more popular. People study Physics as a chosen field because they are interested in understanding, and Physics is known as difficult (as is Engineering). Since Physics is this way, usually Physics departments do not have abundant students choosing this major, so physics departments will give some effort to try to recruit students into the choice as major. You will soon find that during your first 3 semesters of university Physics courses, very few students in them are in the Physics major. After those, most students in these courses are physics majors.
 
One of the key differences to keep in mind is that engineering is a professional degree. Engineering programs are geared towards preparing the student for entering that professional discipline. At first your courses will be quite similar with fundamental physics, calculus, algebra, differential equations, programming, etc. But as time goes on engineering programs will focus more on design and development.

In physics the focus will be more on using those fundamental concepts to conduct further scientific investigations. The program will generally have more options to cover fundamental nature of the universe-type concepts like quantum mechanics and cosmology.

There is naturally a lot of cross-over and technically, you can jump from one field to the other, although doing that may require some back-tracking.

In the end, this advice may seem a little simplistic and obvious, but I'll pass it on anyways. If you want to be an engineer, take engineering. If you want to study physics, take physics. If you don't know what you want to do, you should spend a little more time investigating each field - job shadow a few engineers and/or some physics graduate students to see what they do day-to-day for example.
 

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